Why do they bury people that commit suicide?

by Blue 37 Replies latest jw friends

  • avishai
    avishai
    If they think suicide is so wrong and then drive people to it by disfellowshipping them or threatening them with disfellowshipping why does the Watchtower have funerals for them as Jehovah Witnesses. Does anyone know? I remember years ago they were completely against cremation. Does anyone know if they changed their stupid rules again??

    Yes, I have heard of this. A really stupid old elder I knew said we should'nt be cremated, because how would god ressurect us? & I said, "So, you really think abrahams remains are around someplace?" He did'nt have an answer. Also, I have heard people that were raised as young kids, & then left refer to themselves as "Jehovahs" Or even adults as a shorthand. Yes, Most of us used the "proper" one of Jehovahs witneses which was tedious & cumbersome. Also, why are some of you, you know who you are, constantly jumping peoples shit, especially newbies? Remember larrynbabies? I'm pretty damn sure he's legit. But, no, everybody had to jump in & give their two cents to an obviously traumatized man. Until we're sure someones a troll, & they will show it, GET OFF THEIR BACK!!!!!!

  • wednesday
    wednesday

    Blue,

    I have been a jw/around them for 50 yrs. I do remember way back in the 50-60 maybe that cremation was not exactly the preferred way, but even then i don't think there was a ban on it. It is well known that some pious jws will refuse to do a funeral on a suicide years ago. but i think they may have had some sensitivity training and now do. I remember when my cousin commited suicide, some of my relative(jws) pondered whether to go b/c it was a suicide. i am from texas, and we are in the bible belt here, and people can be very judgmental. Jws funeral are really a form of advertising for the org. That i agree on. As far as not buying a stone, well, i had one put up for my mom after she was cremented . However, my very old jw uncle was going to try and not put up anything and just do cremation b/c he is a cheap bastard. My aunt's family forced him to put up a stone. They were not jws. But i think my uncle is just a cheap old bastard. But he does represent a lot of really older jws.

    I don't think u could have been a jws very long. The use of "a jehovah" is not anythng a jws would ever say. jws can be a cheap bunch, but most of their memorials, funerals are ok. At least now anyway. 50 yrs ago, not sure.

    AVi, so true, i have heard some morons say the same thing about cremation, like God could not find the person spirit wihout a grave. But i htink this is an example of just a stupid person.

  • Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice.
    Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice.

    Here in Oz, I will state that the only time I have heard the dubs referred to as jehovahs was solely by those persons who were either da'd, df'd, or so far gone from the 'truth' that they may well have been in either category.

    The dubs down here generally referred to themselves as 'a witness' or 'a brother'.

    Other terms used by those disrespectful apostate types included - 'a dub', a 'jo-ho', or 'a joey'.

    Being cremated only puts more of a burden on jehovah, as will involve more work to gather up all your bits and pieces to be able to complete a rezzo on you.

    cheeses - almost in need of a resurrection.

  • Dawn
    Dawn

    Maybe some incredibly heartless, thick, cretinous morons choose cremation to avoid paying for a stone

    Excuse me.......could you please explain this? Do you feel this way about all individuals how choose cremation? Or was it just a shot against the JWs?

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    *sniff* something smells funny here

    Robyn

  • Eyebrow2
    Eyebrow2

    I am compelled to sound in hear...I live on the east coast now...and NEVER has anyone I have ever known that was a witness or studied ever refered to JWs as a Jehovah....maybe someone that barely knew one...no offense, if you really were at witness, referring to one as a jehovah really takes away from your credibility.

  • Mac
    Mac

    I could be very wrong as I oft times am....but , I think the Watchtower prohibition was about creamating yer jeans!

    mac, of the never sleeps on his tummy after eating a large meal and reading the Song of Soloman class

    * edited to note the intentional misspelling of cremation and the unintentional misspelling of Solomon.......hehehe

  • Cassiline
    Cassiline

    Mis-informed does not equal troll, however if purposely misstating what the JW's believe to achieve some feeling of superiority or have one hate because of these statements is BS, IMNSHO.

    I think I might see a religious zealot who wishes to assure his/her religion looks better then the JW's but I don't see I troll. I think they trying to find things that may make them appear things which they are not.
    If they had asked why or do they bury a person who has committed "murder", since JW's do have said that killing oneself is tantamount to murder then it may have been a fair question.

    I whole heartedly agree with those who say misrepresentation of the JWs is unfair and wrong also saying that they are cruel to their loved ones in death and other false things about them is more then wrong.

    I have never heard of a teaching which prohibits cremation, as a matter of fact their belief that the body after death becomes nothing, the fact that you are supposed to receive a new body in the new system would point to the fact one does not care what happens to the body after death. Thusly cremation or burial of a corpse is fine either way in JW teachings.

    Cassi

    Edit to add:

    Hey Mac

    "LOLed" at your jeans comment!!

  • Mac
    Mac

    Don't laugh (((Cassie)))......ya know I'm ever so sensitive!!!!

    mac

  • Cassiline
    Cassiline

    I was laughing near you not at you.

    How have you been? LTNS

    I've missed you!

    Hugs Mac.

    Cassi

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