Kudos to Tony Blair, UK PM

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  • Farkel
    Farkel

    Kingpawn,

    Your other stuff is so silly it isn't worth addressing, but I will address this little bit of mis-information:

    : in re: possible insider trading and those of VP Cheney with possible accounting irregularities at Halliburton when he was CEO.

    Cheney wanted to hold on to his stock when he was running for VP, but the Democrats screamed long and loud that he sell it, so he did at their insistence. As soon as he sold it the same Democrats screamed that it was an insider deal and he profited from it before the stock went down. In fact, had Cheney kept it another month, he would have made a lot more money.

    These same democrats are demanding that they want to be able to decide whether Bush attacks Iraq or not. Congress is only authorized to decide when an act of war is declared. Bush can leave them in the dust by NOT declaring war on Iraq just as previous Presidents have not declared war in Korea, Vietnam, Haiti, Bosnia and Panama. The democrats are not demanding this out of any moral reasons, but only for political reasons in the upcoming election. If Bush moves without them and succeeds and he WILL succeed in Iraq, the democrats will be left standing with their dicks in their hands.

    We don't have 535 commanders-in-chief in this country, only one. Thank God for that.

    Farkel

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    This article appeared in today's Observer, the Guardians sister newspaper:

    Britain and US ready to fight alone - Blair

    Saddam 'threatens UK citizens'
    Doing nothing is not an option, says PM


    Kamal Ahmed, Ed Vulliamy at Camp David and Peter Beaumont in London
    Sunday September 8, 2002
    The Observer
    Tony Blair issued a stark warning last night that he was ready to commit British troops to fight alongside US forces in a war against Iraq - even if other members of the United Nations were opposed to military action.

    Signalling that strikes against Saddam Hussein were virtually inevitable, the Prime Minister stressed that 'inaction was not an option' and that Britain had a duty to act now to save civilians from the threat of weapons of mass destruction.

    As Blair flew to the United States last night for crucial talks with President George W. Bush at Camp David, he told reporters aboard his specially chartered jet that he was convinced the British public would be persuaded of the need for action once details of Saddam's weapons programme were published.

    'The threat is very real and it is a threat not just to America or to the international community, but to Britain,' he said. 'If these weapons are developed and used, then there is no way that any conflict Saddam initiated using these weapons would not have direct implication for the interest of Britain.'

    Blair believes public opinion will harden with the publication tomorrow of a report by the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London, which will detail Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological capabilities.

    The report, which has been seen by officials at Number 10, is thought to give details of Saddam's attempt to rebuild his nuclear capabilities since the ending of UN weapons inspections in 1998.

    It will also detail his development of drone planes to release chemical and biological weapons over long distances. The report will concentrate on whether Iraq is supporting terrorist organisations around the world with weapons or finance.

    The Government was also intending to publish a dossier that would include new intelligence reports on Saddam's operations which have not been seen in public before.

    In comments echoed by US officials, a bullish Blair also gave a broad hint last night that Britain and the US were prepared to act without support from other UN nations, saying the present containment regime against Saddam of no-fly zones and sanctions could only go so far.

    Although he stressed that he would prefer to go ahead with the support of the international community, Blair said the UN would not be able simply to prevaricate over action - comments viewed in some quarters as an attempt to pressure other countries to fall in behind the US and Britain.

    Senior Bush administration sources revealed last night that Bush will tell world leaders at the UN on Thursday that unless they take quick, strong action to disarm Iraq, the US will be forced to act on its own.

    But British troops were also likely to be deployed. Peppering his comments with the argument that Saddam needed to be dealt with now, Blair told journalists he was 'sceptical' that the return of United Nations weapons inspectors could defuse the Iraqi threat, adding that he did not believe a UN resolution was necessary to authorise military action against Iraq.

    In an interview due to be broadcast today, Blair is also expected to tell the BBC that Britain should be prepared to commit troops alongside the US in view of the 'real and immediate' threat posed by Iraq.

    'If I thought they were pursuing military action in a way that was wrong, I would never support it. But I've never found that, and I don't expect to find it in the future,' he says.

    Blair and Bush were meeting last night to carve out a detailed plan for a strict ultimatum and deadlines for Saddam to admit weapons inspectors, unhindered, backed by a robust military presence already mobilised in the region.

    They will also draw up the strategy for presenting a case for action to the now crucial UN General Assembly on Thursday, to be addressed by Bush the day after the anniversary of the 11 September attacks.

    The comments follow Bush's apparent failure to persuade the leaders of Russia, China and France of the need for military action in personal calls on Friday. Bush has said he will dispatch teams of officials to the three capitals to present the evidence of the threat posed by Iraq.

    On the inspectors, Blair said: 'We have got to see this in the light of experience. Why did the inspectors go? It was because the inspectors found they couldn't do their work. Whatever weapons inspection regime is put in has to be one that's very effective.'

    Pressed whether a new UN resolution was needed, Blair said simply: 'There's no doubt this issue has to be dealt with. The only decision that's been taken at this stage is that inaction is not an option.'

    Blair said, while he wanted the 'broadest possible coalition' for any action, 'we have, however, to make sure this issue is dealt with one way or another.'

    Asked if he had received a cool response in recent talks with France and Russia, Blair replied: 'I wouldn't say that. I think most people are at first base, which is that, yes, this is a problem and we can't ignore it.'

    Senior sources say that the White House will sell its determination to fight Iraq according to a strategy drawn up at a summit in June and unashamedly entwined with the 11 September anniversary.

    Officials say the campaign for public hearts and minds, and also the backing of Congress and administration sceptics, will begin with the President's speech in New York. END.

    Englishman.

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit

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    The only amendment this needs is to add the Middle East to Europe, imo.

    Expatbrit

  • willy_think
    willy_think

    Yer,

    I took my ass to England during the gulf war, my MOS was special security, we flew sorties day and night from our base, kicked ass and I was a part of it. I never said we were bad, I said were there. if you refuse to factor that political reality into the equation you can't clam to see the whole picture.

    I'm not going to try to reenlist now, I'm too old to go to Iraq, that is unless we run out of young guys, then I'll re-up. Until then I'll rest on my status as a veteran of a foreign war.

    What is the difference between 1000 English and 1000 Iraqis? Nothing, they are all foreigners.

  • kelsey007
    kelsey007

    I was thinking of a bumper sticker: "BLAIR FOR PRESIDENT" I enjoy his speaches a lot better than Bushes!

  • barry
    barry

    You all forgot about Australia our little jonny howard will support big brother Tony and George all the way we always do.

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge
    What is the difference between 1000 English and 1000 Iraqis? Nothing, they are all foreigners

    Was that suppose to be funny?

    I think a more accurate Q/A would be:

    Q: "What's the difference between 1000 Iraqi soldiers and 1 English soldier"?

    A: Militarily, the Iraqi's are outnumbered.

    Edited by - Double Edge on 9 September 2002 17:55:15

  • Crazy151drinker
    Crazy151drinker

    Uhhhh last time I checked we had a couple of Bases in Germany, some in Japan, Cuba, etc. etc... are you trying to say we occupy these countries??? Are you on CRACK! Yeah we occupy Cuba...please..............

  • ApagaLaLuz
    ApagaLaLuz

    Tony Blair is a follower. He'll agree to anything the U.S. dictates. He's had his head so far up Clinton's ass, and now Bush's.

    Kudos to him indeed. (sarcasm) It's easy to work with any administration if you're hell-bent on kissing their asses.

    Edited by - CHEVYSNTATS on 9 September 2002 19:3:57

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge

    Kudos to Tony Blair, yes, INDEED!

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