by Inisc 41 Replies latest jw friends
Cofty, thanks for posting that link to the Guardian.
The trouble is, you're preaching to the choir here, as you know. We get it, those still in will go through the most absurd mental gymnastics to avoid facing reality.
No one likes cognitive dissonance, yet it's odd how often people will accept ridiculous beliefs to avoid the psychological tension created by it rather than face facts.
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php
Above is the link to the excellent expose on JWFacts.com which shows Paul Gillies of the London Bethel lying in several e-mails to the Guardian newspaper's religious affairs reporter Stephen Bates.
Mr Bates is the one who first exposed the NGO status of the WT with the U.N the article on JWfacts follows the whole thing through.
If any JW can read this article and think they belong to an organization of truth, representing a god of truth, they really are a looney.
The WT is trying to keep itself going by LIES upon lies.
I remember just after that story broke I went to the KH after not going for years to the tuesday book study and the first thing out of the presiding elders mouth when he saw me was , we're not answering any questions about the UN then he went on and demonized the WTBTS web site as apostate but someone mentioned to him what he did then he said it was a mistake on his part .LOL . There is no way for them to save face on the issue and quoting Romans 13 isn't going to work with me , I know they have been saying the world ended invisibly for a long time .
Has this happened to any one else?
Similar. It was a few years back when I mentioned it to a visiting JW. They told me they'd get back to me. They did. They (said that they'd) telephoned a relative in Bethel/Brooklyn (we live in England) and the answer was that it wasn't the Society, but a private individual (unbeknownst to the WTS) who had joined the library for personal use.
My parents' response to this was that whoever did this was working on his own, unbeknownst to the Society and that surely he must have been punished for this! Surely it must have been one of those APOSTATES that sometimes infiltrate Bethel and he's no longer there OR a Jehovah's Witness! When I told them it was Ciro Aulicino...the one who gave the (disgusting) talk that they waxed poetic about and insisted I (and every other JW or person studying that lived on the East Coast) listen to, and that he was doing research for the writing department with the Society's blessing, they changed their tune and said he must have had his reasons for doing so...and once he found out it was wrong, he changed.
Excuses excuses excuses. ANY excuse so they don't have to do something so uncomfortable as to use their brain!!
beyond sad.
Thank you, Inisc and Blond-moment, Crofty and all, for such powerful info.
My mother, bros&sisters are all JWs... (Dad passed away 10 years ago, a sitter-on-the-fence who loved talking to me secretly about JW hypocrisy - miss him terribly)..totally closed-minded despite glaring evidence around them. For me, it's a matter of: Can't change others' reactions/responses - but we can change our own reactions to their reactions. Show them love, care, and tenderness.
Look forward to your next encounter, Blond-moment.
Flossycat, Melbourne, Australia
Well, what can I say? The JW (inactive) said fornication is okay but not celebrating holidays... :(
Correction : The JW (inactive) that I know said...
WORLD HEADQUARTERS OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES
25 Columbia Heights, Brooklyn, NY 11201-2483 • Tel. 718 560-5000
XXXX November 1, 2001 No. XXXXX
Via CompuServe
Branch Committee
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Dear Brothers:
Because of published allegations by opposers that we have secret links with the United Nations, a number of branches have inquired about the matter and we have replied. This circular letter replaces any replies we have given earlier and is sent to all branches. To anyone inquiring within your branch territory you might respond according to what is stated below:
Our purpose for registering with the Department of Public Information as a nongovernmental organization (NGO) in 1991 was to have access to research material available on health, ecological, and social problems at the United Nations library facilities. We had been using the library for many-years prior to 1991, but in that year it became necessary to register as an NGO to have continued access. Registration papers filed with the United Nations that we have on file contain no statements that conflict with our Christian beliefs. Moreover, NGOs are informed by the United Nations that "association of NGOs with the DPI does not constitute their incorporation into the United Nations system, nor does it entitle associated organizations or their staff to any kind of privileges, immunities or special status."
Still, the Criteria for Association of NGOs-at least in their latest version-contain language that we cannot subscribe to. When we realized this, we immediately withdrew our registration. We are grateful that this matter was brought to our attention.
We trust that the above is, helpful in counteracting the attempts of opposers to discredit us.
Please be assured of our warm Christian love and best wishes.
Your brothers,
Chairman's Committee
c: Administration Offices Desks
Legal Department
Office of Public Information
note: We had been using the library for many-years prior to 1991, but in that year it became necessary to register as an NGO to have continued access Registration papers filed with the United Nations that we have on file contain no statements that conflict with our Christian beliefs.
Organizations eligible for association with DPI are those which:
