My mom and dad told me that I'm an apostate and that they want to 'limit their association' with me!!! (page 5)

OUTLAW

Love you outlaw!.....Joliette

Awwwwwwwwwwwww..Your so Sweet..

........................;-)...OUTLAW

"Look, you're probably right that I didn't consider your feelings when making my videos. It is equally inconsiderate when you press your beliefs around me since I find them to be verifiably false. I'll agree to pull all my videos and make sure I don't make any comments about my beliefs, either in a public forum or around you, if you agree to do the same for me. And we can just enjoy each other as a loving family and leave our personal beliefs to ourselves."

Good advice, but I giggle a little when I try to imagine them agreeing not to talk about their beliefs in public. They wouldn't get their time in!

This is similar to my approach. I do not allow any religious talk, emails, mailing, voicemails, etc. One whiff of anything remotely religious, including "aren't current events scary", results in an immediate elimination of all contact for a cooling off period for Dubbie Dearest.

I am very clear about this to her. Mail me something, I rip it up and mail it back (usually with Christmas decorations stamped all over the envelope). Email me something and I block the email address. Block from texting and Facebook. Mention it and we are not on speaking terms--I get up and leave right that second, even if it's in the middle of dinner and she's paying. She has been forewarned and the terms of our agreement are reasonable.

She then resorted to mailing stuff directly to my husband. He gave it to me b/c he found it odd she would be sending him stuff. I opened it and said I will never speak another word to her as long as I live if she did that again. I ripped it up and mailed it back too.

Because she is so manipulative, I have adopted a zero tolerance policy. Miraculously she has since been cured from lapses in memory about our agreement or "slipped by accident" or "I didn't mean that".

But you see I absolutely hate my mother and wish she would shun me. So I guess I am not taking the risks the OP is taking.

sabastious

The vast majority of Jehovah's Witnesses are not capable of keeping their personal beliefs to themselves, especially when they say they will in some sort of "deal." Parents who "lose children to apotasy" go through a similar process when grieving a death:

http://psychcentral.com/lib/2006/the-5-stages-of-loss-and-grief/1. Denial and Isolation
The first reaction to learning of terminal illness or death of a cherished loved one is to deny the reality of the situation. It is a normal reaction to rationalize overwhelming emotions. It is a defense mechanism that buffers the immediate shock. We block out the words and hide from the facts. This is a temporary response that carries us through the first wave of pain.
2. Anger
As the masking effects of denial and isolation begin to wear, reality and its pain re-emerge. We are not ready. The intense emotion is deflected from our vulnerable core, redirected and expressed instead as anger. The anger may be aimed at inanimate objects, complete strangers, friends or family. Anger may be directed at our dying or deceased loved one. Rationally, we know the person is not to be blamed. Emotionally, however, we may resent the person for causing us pain or for leaving us. We feel guilty for being angry, and this makes us more angry.
Remember, grieving is a personal process that has no time limit, nor one “right” way to do it.
The doctor who diagnosed the illness and was unable to cure the disease might become a convenient target. Health professionals deal with death and dying every day. That does not make them immune to the suffering of their patients or to those who grieve for them.
Do not hesitate to ask your doctor to give you extra time or to explain just once more the details of your loved one’s illness. Arrange a special appointment or ask that he telephone you at the end of his day. Ask for clear answers to your questions regarding medical diagnosis and treatment. Understand the options available to you. Take your time.
3. Bargaining
The normal reaction to feelings of helplessness and vulnerability is often a need to regain control–
If only we had sought medical attention sooner…
If only we got a second opinion from another doctor…
If only we had tried to be a better person toward them…
Secretly, we may make a deal with God or our higher power in an attempt to postpone the inevitable. This is a weaker line of defense to protect us from the painful reality.
4. Depression
Two types of depression are associated with mourning. The first one is a reaction to practical implications relating to the loss. Sadness and regret predominate this type of depression. We worry about the costs and burial. We worry that, in our grief, we have spent less time with others that depend on us. This phase may be eased by simple clarification and reassurance. We may need a bit of helpful cooperation and a few kind words. The second type of depression is more subtle and, in a sense, perhaps more private. It is our quiet preparation to separate and to bid our loved one farewell. Sometimes all we really need is a hug.
5. Acceptance
Reaching this stage of mourning is a gift not afforded to everyone. Death may be sudden and unexpected or we may never see beyond our anger or denial. It is not necessarily a mark of bravery to resist the inevitable and to deny ourselves the opportunity to make our peace. This phase is marked by withdrawal and calm. This is not a period of happiness and must be distinguished from depression.
Loved ones that are terminally ill or aging appear to go through a final period of withdrawal. This is by no means a suggestion that they are aware of their own impending death or such, only that physical decline may be sufficient to produce a similar response. Their behavior implies that it is natural to reach a stage at which social interaction is limited. The dignity and grace shown by our dying loved ones may well be their last gift to us.
Coping with loss is a ultimately a deeply personal and singular experience — nobody can help you go through it more easily or understand all the emotions that you’re going through. But others can be there for you and help comfort you through this process. The best thing you can do is to allow yourself to feel the grief as it comes over you. Resisting it only will prolong the natural process of healing.

^ When your parents make demands of you, Joliette, to make changes in your life while not having equal compromise on their end they are just bargaining to try to bring the past back into their lives, which of course is impossible.

-Sab

cult classic

Joliette, sorry that happened. I don't think anything can prepare you for the sting of being judged and shunned by your own family.

thetrueone

Something else to take in is the type of disingenuous characters that are inside supporting this corrupt religion ( Mankkeli )

A shamefully chronic liar, apathetically unconcerning to anyone but his precarious JW identifying ego.

I'm sure he's not liked very well in his Kingdom Hall either, I expect.

I'm also suspecting he's suffering from a form of bipolar personality disorder, something not uncommon with JWS.

I mentioned a couple of days ago that he's teenager come here to take the piss out of people wanting to or have left the JWS.

That picture of him reconfirms my thoughts.

mrsjones5

I'm gonna start channelling Rebel when I deal with my mother.

Joliette

lisaBOdeesa: I know, right?

Once again, thank you guys for the comments.

Violia

Jolitte, I am so sorry. It appears the new light on how to treat and view apostates or even just those who don't attend etc is effecting a number of us. I imagine it will cause so many problems as some jws will actually do what they say . If it effects important folks in the wts they might soften their stance a bit. In the meantime it is your parents and I know that hurts.

Joey Jo-Jo

N.drew

You will be OK Joliette

My mom and dad told me that I'm an apostate and that they want to 'limit their association' with me!!!