by nicolaou 175 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Tammy, while you might not be prepared to be disgusted by a "passage out of context" from the Qu'ran, you do seem like the guy on the left in the video when hearing a Bible verse. You seem to figure there must be some context to explain away the terrible God it portrays or else you dismiss the passages as "written by imperfect men."
Your Christian message is mystical and magical and teflon- nothing bad sticks to it.
Tammy
But I do have a measure for how I understand things (test things, as we are supposed to test the spirits), and that is through Christ.
Yea... you make up a context as you go along.
1 John 4 tells you to test the spirits. The way you apply the test, you make every prophet in the bible out to be a false one.
You seem to figure there must be some context to explain away the terrible God it portrays or else you dismiss the passages as "written by imperfect men."
Context or scribal error/lie or just something man attributed to God without KNOWING... but THOUGHT.
Your Christian message is mystical and magical and teflon- nothing bad sticks to it.
Well, nothing bad should stick to it.
So... um... good.
And OTWO, I agree a lot with the guy on the right, too.
Tammy
bttt
It most certainly does.
New International Version (NIV)
12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—
13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. 14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.
15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! 16 Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification. 17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!
18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. 19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
20 The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Explain that away with your cherry-picking. Either Adam was the 1st human, or none of this matters.
I have just been flicking through this thread so have not read the entire thing.
A couple of comments jumped out at me both from DD.
An eye for an eye reveals God's justice to unbelievers. God gave the law to Moses for a society of believers and unbelievers alike. Christ comes and reveals the "law of love" (a higher standard) to believers. There is no conflict there, that I can see.
Bottom line, Tammy, we have a different Jesus.
I think those two comments show just how dangerous religion can be, not just to the secular but even to people merely of a differing denomination. It shows a lack of empathy bordering on the psycopathic.
