Phone Call From My Mother!

by Ranchette 42 Replies latest jw friends

  • Focus
    Focus

    Ranchette wrote:

    Focus, Thanks for your ideas.

    You are more than welcome.

    I am very intrigued by you suggested approach.
    Yes, I do not believe in Passive Resistance. I do not believe in Passive Anything.

    I plan to study it closer and see if I can find a way to make it mine. I wonder what you think of me writing a letter with these questions with my comments to her possible answers?
    It allows her to save face and pretend she did not read more than the first few lines. The article "Do Not Be Quickly Shaken From Your Reason" (March 15, 1986 WT pp10-14) and its memorable picture of a snooty jW woman throwing "spiritual pornography" into the bin without even reading it springs to mind.

    In your shoes, I would take the bull - or cow (sorry!) - by the horns and do it face to face. I suggested the phone as a sop to your (probably) less war-like tastes... A mere letter is a bit of an LDH

    I'm thinking I could get the point across without upsetting myself unduly through a letter.
    Never quite knowing how she took it - or even how much of it she actually read may well upset you more, Ranchette.

    Plus I could share it with you and the results.
    Now, now, you did not EVEN REMOTELY THINK she would REPLY to your letter? Come, come! Do I know her better than you??

    Here is some advice. BY ALL MEANS write the letter to get your thoughts straight and your feelings clear. Share those parts here that you feel comfortable with (anonymize it!), and I'm sure you'll get feedback.

    This done, girds your loins and USE THE PHONE (or go whole hog and corner her in person).

    You have nothing to lose but your fear. She has everything to lose - her whole imaginary castle in the sky.

    --
    Focus
    (Wrastler Class)

  • LDH
    LDH
    I do not believe in Passive Anything

    Too bad, Focus. Being passive at the right, er, moment *could* just be enjoyable.

    Lisa
    Aggressor Class

  • Focus
    Focus

    LDH wrote:

    Being passive at the right, er, moment *could* just be enjoyable.

    I do not understand.

    Please, explain.

    --
    Focus
    (Include diagrams or photographs wherever necessary Class)

  • ashitaka
    ashitaka

    Just reading the thread and think this could be a JW mother syndrome. I've seen SOOOO many JW mothers act this way towards their daughters.....frightening. My wife is still getting over the shit her mother did to her.

    ashi

  • Ranchette
    Ranchette

    Focus,

    I am going to think about this.
    Obviously you and I are at opposite ends of the passive aggressive personality spectrum.

    One thing you don't know about my mother is she is very nosey and courious and wild horses coulden't stop her from reading all my words.

    She may stew for a month or so but she would eventually reply because she's also the type who just has to have the last word.

    You may end up being disapointed in me but I will do what I feel comfortable with.I just have to figure out what that is.

    Ranchette

  • Focus
    Focus

    Ranchette wrote:

    she is very nosey and courious and wild horses coulden't stop her from reading all my words.
    She may stew for a month or so but she would eventually reply because she's also the type who just has to have the last word.

    Use her weakness against her, then.

    Download everything exposing the Watchtower that you can - start with:

    http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/the_list.html
    or http://www.freeminds.org/history/part1.htm

    (whichever format you prefer). Chop it up into little bits, (copy and paste into a word-processor file) and personalize them, put your personal touch to them - connect them with your own Borgian experiences. Then snail-mail 'em to her at the rate of two or three a week. Stop only when she calls the cops.

    I promise that you will not run out of anti-Watchtower material.

    --
    Focus
    (Anti-Theocrappy Class)

  • Ranchette
    Ranchette
    Stop only when she calls the cops.


    LOL Focus!

    Ranchette

  • LDH
    LDH

    Ranchette,

    See, that bad little Focus has done it again! *I* recommended that you deal with your mom in a straightforward manner and that bad little boy comes along and steals my thunder--AGAIN!

    Moms are very hard to deal with, esp. JW moms. Some good self-help books on adult mother/daughter relationships might be in order here, if that's your style.

    Focus,
    I'm sorry, Simon says we can't post pictures anymore after the Penises thread. (In which I did not post pictures anyway, LOL). Besides, I'm not a kiss and tell kind of gal!

    Lisa

  • bigfloppydog
    bigfloppydog

    Some mothers can be really cruel, I had one of those cruel ones,sorry to read your predicament, but you can't go through life trying to please mother, trying to spare her feelings,you will eventually get run down and depressed trying to do this. Get some back-bone, stick up for yourself and live your life the way you want. Keep in touch with your grandparents why should you miss out on having them in your life because of your mom. I hope I don't sound to harsh, i don't mean to but my own mother was terrible, and all I ever wanted was her love. I was what they call the whipping stick of her life. I'd be nice to her like you sound nice to your mom, and she always put me down, or said cruel things to me. We do not speak, because I got wise one day and spoke up for myself, and decided not to take her crap anymore, the best thing I ever did for ME for a change. Now we are estranged and my life is better for that. Don't get me wrong I still love her, but I don't love what she does. All her put downs etc. I hope you find some peace within yourself.

  • GinnyTosken
    GinnyTosken

    LDH,

    I have to agree with you--the responses by Focus have me rather hot and bothered now.

    Remind her POINTEDLY . . .

    Remind her POINTEDLY . . .

    Remind her POINTEDLY . . .

    Pause to let it sink in . . .

    I do not believe in Passive Anything. . . .

    In your shoes, I would take the bull - or cow (sorry!) - by the horns and do it face to face.

    [See also: "Women are COWS!"
    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=4556&site=3 ]

    Ordinarily the male or bull would not think of approaching
    the female or cow for sex purposes. If he did approach he would not
    receive a hearty welcome, but, rather, he might be gored by the cow's
    horns.
    This done, girds your loins . . .
    Ginny, in condition to breed and following the guidance of the Watchtower Society by making the matter known

    The bull seems to understand this and keeps in his own place. However, when the female of the species is in condition to breed, she makes the matter known.

    from http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=4556&site=3

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