CO spins the continuous “faithful and discreet slave” doctrine - explaining how “ONE GENERATION OF SLAVE FED ANOTHER” for 1900 years!

by LUKEWARM 54 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Olin Moyles Ghost
    Olin Moyles Ghost

    The WTS doctrine of the "faithful and discreet slave" (FDS) is in direct contradiction with its doctrine of "the light getting brighter" and the "wheat and the weeds." Like many JW doctrines, these look fine from a distance. But if you take the time to examine them in more detail, they fall apart. Here's something I put together on this matter:

    Background

    1. The light gets brighter

    As you know, Witnesses explain away their silly old teachings and false prophecies by means of the "light getting brighter" statement from Proverbs 4. Thus, according to the Witnesses, we have a much greater understanding of the Bible now than did the friends in the days of Russell, Rutherford, and Knorr.

    2. The 1,900 year-old Faithful & Discreet Slave

    The Witnesses teach that Christ appointed the FDS in 33 C.E. There has been a FDS on the earth at all times from 33 C.E. until today. On several occasions, the literature has stated that one generation of the "slave" fed the next generation—including during the post-Apostolic period up to Russell's time.

    While the Watchtower has occasionally included articles about various dissident groups during the "dark ages" in Europe (e.g., the Lollards, Waldenses, Levellers), there has been no statement affirming any of these groups as comprising the FDS. Also, there is no evidence that these groups fit into any sort of unbroken chain of faithful slaves providing food to the next generation at the proper time.

    Further, the Society teaches that Russell's group was not an offshoot of any group or organization. Rather, one publication characterizes Russell as reviving the great truths of the Bible. Statements such as this insinuate that Russell simply prayed for guidance and was led by Holy Spirit to reject the popular teachings of Christendom (Trinity, hell, etc.).

    The Contradiction

    So, the Society appears to have adopted a contradictory position. First, there has been a FDS on the earth since 33 C.E. Second, C.T. Russell was part of the FDS. Ok, so far so good, right? Here's where it gets dicey for the Watchtower. C.T. Russell's group was not an offshoot of any group or organization—rather, they studied the Bible free of any preconceptions from other religious groups. So, how does this square with the FDS dating back to 33 C.E.? Shouldn't there have been a FDS group on the earth in the 1870s to give Russell the food at the proper time? Why did he have to come up with it himself?

    Also, going back to Proverbs 4, who had a clearer understanding of Bible truths—Russell, or the 1st century Christians? I think it would only require a quick glance through the Studies in the Scriptures and some copies of Zion's Watch Tower to answer that question. So, that begs the question: why didn't the light get brighter between 33 C.E. and 1879? It looks like it got darker, doesn't it?

    A Flawed Counter-Argument

    An astute Witness would likely counter this argument by raising the parable of the wheat and the weeds. The Watchtower teaches that during the post-Apostolic period until the "time of the harvest" (which JWs believe parallels the "last days"), it would be difficult to distinguish true from false Christians. But, according to Witness theology, once the harvest period began, the wheat and weeds would be readily distinguishable.

    This counter-argument is like a Monet painting—it looks good from a distance, but when you examine it up close, it's a mess. In particular, this counter-argument is at odds with the concept of a FDS class existing from 33 C.E. down to modern times. In order for the two doctrines to coexist, then at some point members of the FDS had to stop believing certain "true" doctrines and start believing "false" doctrines. Picture this: it's the 2nd century and the members of the FDS meet and decide to start believing in the Trinity. Would Jesus consider these people to be "faithful" and "discreet"? Do JWs believe that something like this happened? Probably not; but I would love to hear an alternative explanation.

  • LUKEWARM
    LUKEWARM

    ***w751/15p.46HowAreChristiansSpirituallyFed?***Jesus had said: "Look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things." (Matt. 28:20) Jesus Christ is the Head of the congregation, his slave, and his words show that he would strengthen them to feed his "domestics" right down through the centuries. Apparently one generation of the "slave" class fed the succeeding generation thereof, as well as continuing to feed themselves.


    ***w955/15pp.16-17par.5Part1-FlashesofLight-GreatandSmall
    *** 5 In this regard, the book God'sKingdomofaThousandYearsHasApproached stated: "As to just how the 'faithful and discreet slave' class existed and served down through the centuries after the death of the apostles of the Master Jesus Christ, we do not have a distinct historical picture. Apparently one generation of the 'slave' class fed the next succeeding generation thereof. (2 Timothy 2:2) But in the latter half of the nineteenth century there were God-fearing persons who loved the spiritual food of the Holy Bible and who desired to feed on it . . . Bible study classes . . . were formed and progressed in the understanding of the fundamental truths of the Sacred Scriptures. The sincere unselfish ones among these Bible students were eager to share these vital portions of spiritual food with others. They had the faithful spirit of the 'slave' appointed to give the 'domestics' the needed spiritual 'food at the proper time.' They were 'discreet' in discerning that it was then the right and proper time and what were the best means for serving the food. They endeavored to serve it."-Pages 344-5.
    Apparentlyits all Bible based...

  • sir82
    sir82

    Did he explain how a slave so "faithful and discreet" and living in a time of "increased knowledge" could get, well, dang near everything wrong for the past 130 years?

    Didn't think so.

  • minimus
    minimus

    My understanding is that COs cannot just give their own talks. That being the case, it had to be approved by the Society and other COs will give it too.

  • VM44
    VM44

    "Bible study classes . . . were formed and progressed in the understanding of the fundamental truths of the Sacred Scriptures."

    "Bible Study" classes? What they were really studying were Russell's books!

    These books were called "the Bible in arranged form" and reading of them was said to be more beneficial than reading the Bible!!!!

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