My father was "removed" from his role, can't remember what it was, because of my dfing. But not likely anyone would get the boot for their kids choices... on the other hand, don't most dubbies and other Xtians thing we are responsible for what old Adam ate in the garden? carmel
Disfellowshipping question
by DJK 13 Replies latest jw friends
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Mad
Oh boy! Taking rumors seriously, are you? That's a bad sign!
the Mad JW
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Gregor
No. But it does bring up an interesting phenom. with the JW's. Many parents disfellowship their kids defacto because they refuse to get baptized or in some cases they push the kids into it and then DF them when they don't want to live the life. I know of both situations personally.
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Amazing
Carmel,
the other hand, don't most dubbies and other Xtians thing we are responsible for what old Adam ate in the garden?
No, Christians do not teach that we are responsible for Adam & Eve's sin. Rather, the Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant mainline churches teach that we inherit sin because of Adam. It correlates best to a millionaire who is debt free, but then squanders his fortune and goes deep into debt. His children also suffer the loss, and instead of inheriting wealth, they inherit poverty. Jesus Christ saves us by paying off the debt, and raising us out of spiritual poverty into spiritual wealth.
The big difference between the three main lines of Christianity and the JWs is this:
Catholic: Jesus died and paid for our sins, and we do no have to work for our salvation. It is a free gift. Our works also keep us from the possibility of losing our salvation as Adam did, but more importantly, our Christian living brings us closer to the Divine life.
Orthodox: Same as Catholic, except that Jesus would have come to earth anyway, even if Adam had not sinned, so that he could connect humanity with the divinity. Also, our Christian living sanctifies us in the Divine life.
Protestant: Same as Catholic and Orthodox, except our works have no sanctification value beyond responding to the Holy Spirit, and exhibiting that he truly dwells in us.
Jehovah's Witness: Jesus paid off your Adamic sins, but, you must now work like hell to live a damn near perfect life, and even then, only probably you might get saved if Jehovah is in a good mood toward you on the day that he commences Armageddon.
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Gregor. Excellent point and a very true observation! Your point really deserves a separate posting.
Jim Whitney