Major OCTOBER 2006 SURPRISE: court says open ped files per silentlambs.org

by majornewsin2006 40 Replies latest jw friends

  • jstalin
    jstalin

    Wow!

    Edit - even more wow after I read the court order. It's pretty sweeping in the information it requires the Botchtower to produce. Botchtower claims that it is protected by the clergy-penitent privilege, yet the history of this privilege is derived from the Catholic rite of confession. So Botchtower is trying to hide behind a Catholic-derived legal precident.

    Danny needs to get out publicity machine on this one! It'll be even more interesting to see what evidence the Botchtower produces.

  • Nosferatu
    Nosferatu

    Persecution! Persecution!

    This ruling from the court states simply that the church cannot use “clergy penitent privilege” as a way to protect pedophiles from law enforcement. The ruling further states information stated in judicial hearings of Jehovah’s Witnesses as well as documents generated by those hearings are not “privileged” and will have to be released to the courts as any information that is relevant to the case. In addition, the Legal Department will have to produce all documents related to their abuse policy and how they investigate child abuse allegations.

    HELL YEAH! It's about goddam time this happened. Take that you Watchtower Bastards!

    BTW, is this the Big News that we were supposed to hear about this month? ;)

  • sir82
    sir82

    In related news, all office supply stores within a 50 mile radius of Brooklyn, Patterson, and Wallkill report that no paper shredders remain in stock, following an unexpected surge in purchases by "nervous looking lawyer types wearing ill-fitting polyester suits".

  • Genesis
    Genesis

    What a great news ! Watchtower Hypocrisy at his finest has been uncovered !

  • juni
    juni

    Mary said:

    This is fantastic news!!! Imagine Jesus' brethren spending tens of thousands of dollars on lawyer's fees to try and keep secret a list of "true Christians" who commit one of the most vile acts you can on helpless children; Can you see the First Century congregations trying to pull that crap?

    I agree with you Mary and I love how you put it in those terms.

    Thank you for this update and Welcome to the forum.

    Juni

  • kittyeatzjdubs
    kittyeatzjdubs

    This is WONDERFUL news, even if it is just for California. It's still a major step forward. So does this mean that people could use this ruling to take the Borg to court in other states? Kinda like kicking them in the shins over and over till the finally fall down....

    ~luv, jojo

  • stevenyc
    stevenyc

    I converted the PDF to text for easy reading here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/122529/3.ashx
    steve

  • NewYork44M
    NewYork44M

    May be this is the "big announcement" that was rumored over the past few weeks.

  • NewYork44M
    NewYork44M
    Botchtower claims that it is protected by the clergy-penitent privilege, yet the history of this privilege is derived from the Catholic rite of confession. So Botchtower is trying to hide behind a Catholic-derived legal precident.

    The irony of this in evident. On one side the society claims that all other religions are from satan. While at the same time they attempt to use the priviliges given to these condemned satanic groups for their own purposes.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    I'm confused about one thing:

    • Item 4 [GRANTED] says: records kept by or under the direction of the Legal Department concerning allegations of abuse
    • Item 5 [DENIED] says: answers to "survey questions" contained on one of the Telememos.

    What use are the documents if they do not contain any answers?

    Also, further down item 4 is clarified as referring to "general information about the types of records kept by the legal department".

    Are we *really* sure the Pedophile Database has been cracked? It seems like the Plaintiffs will get everything *but* the actual database.

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