Greendawn,
So were any bible prophecies true?
by cheeseman 35 Replies latest watchtower bible
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Carmel
Judge fairly: Were the prophecies recorded in the Gospel to be literally fulfilled; were Jesus, Son of Mary, accompanied by angels, to descend from the visible heaven upon the clouds; who would dare to disbelieve, who would dare to reject the truth, and wax disdainful? Nay, such consternation would immediately seize all the dwellers of the earth that no soul would feel able to utter a word, much less to reject or accept the truth. It was owing to their misunderstanding of these truths that many a Christian divine hath objected to Muhammad, and voiced his protest in such words: "If Thou art in truth the promised Prophet, why then art Thou not accompanied by those angels our sacred Books foretold, and which must needs descend with the promised Beauty to assist Him in His Revelation and act as warners unto His people?" Even as the All-Glorious hath recorded their statement: "Why hath not an angel been sent down to him, so that he should have been a warner with Him?"[1]
[1 Qur'án 25:7.Such objections and differences have persisted in every age and century. The people have always busied themselves with such specious discourses, vainly protesting: "Wherefore hath not this or that sign appeared?" Such ills befell them only because they have clung to the ways of the divines of the age in which they lived, and blindly imitated them in accepting or denying these Essences of Detachment, these holy and divine Beings. These leaders, owing to their immersion in selfish desires, and their pursuit of transitory and sordid things, have regarded these divine Luminaries as being opposed to the standards of their knowledge and understanding, and the opponents of their ways and judgments. As they have literally interpreted the Word of God, and the sayings and traditions of the Letters of Unity, and expounded them according to their own deficient understanding, they have therefore deprived themselves and all their people of the bountiful showers of the grace and mercies of God. And yet they bear witness to this well-known tradition: "Verily Our Word is abstruse, bewilderingly abstruse." In another instance, it is said: "Our Cause is sorely trying, highly perplexing; none can bear it except a favorite of heaven, or an inspired Prophet, or he whose faith God hath tested." These leaders of religion admit that none of these three specified conditions is applicable to them. The first two conditions are manifestly beyond their reach; as to the third, it is evident that at no time have they been proof against those tests that have been sent by God, and that when the divine Touchstone appeared, they have shown themselves to be naught but dross.
(Baha'u'llah, The Kitab-i-Iqan, p. 80)
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drew sagan
You must understand that there is Bible prophecy and then their is Watchtower interpretation of Bible prophecy. There is so much about the Bible and the people who wrote it that the Society would never tell it's members because they know it would destroy the foundation for their beliefs. Instead they get a watered down version of the Bible with interpreted scripture given to them in books. I'm a true believer of prophecy in the Bible (many are) but not in prophecy that is "Watchtower Prophecy". Some of the most amazing prophecies I feel are contained not only in the Messiah, but also in how everything in the temple forshadowed the messiah. Textual critism at this point argue back and forth if these are "real" or not. Your faith will decide if you believe them or not.
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peacefulpete
Please post an example for closer examination Drew.
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AuldSoul
YES! Emphatically, yes!
"Many will come in my name and say, Look! Here is the Christ, or There!"
But he said we shouldn't believe them...where do the Witnesses say Christ is?
AuldSoul
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Jeffro
It is safe to say that at some time, some great big 'apocalyptic' event will occur.
Even if all the people don't kill each other first, maybe a meteor will hit the planet (either killing everything by causing too much damage to the planet, by the resultant severe changes in climate, or by knocking Earth out of it's proper orbit less likely), or Earth's orbit will eventually degrade and collapse into the sun, or the sun will eventually grow to engulf what used to be Earth. Each of these things have their own timescales and likelihoods, so end times prophecies still have a LOT of mileage left in them.
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Golf
Gen 3:16, "I shall greatly increase your pain of your pregnancy; in birth pains you will bring forth children,and your craving will will be for husband, and he will dominate you."
vs.17 "...cursed is the ground on your account. In pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life.
vs.18 "And thorns and thistles it will grow for you, and you must eat the vegetation of the field.
vs.19 "In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return."
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Spectrum
Drew,
why do you believe in the prophesies regarding the Messiah? Apparently Jesus knew the scripture very well. Is it not logical that he could have enacted those prophesies one by one in a delibrate manner?
Nevermind the fact that none of it was written during his life time - though not sure how relevant that is. What do the 1st century Jews say about Christ? -
peacefulpete
Golf, when were those words written?
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Golf
Peracefulpete, what difference does it make when those words were written. The subject matter is Bible prophecies.
Do you know when it was written? If you do, confirm it.
Golf