Is it possible that a child molester is NOT a pedophile?

by sir82 57 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    People should be held accountable for their own actions. Just as you said the 16-yr-old murderer's actions shouldn't be blamed on someone else, neither should a victim be blamed for a rapist's actions.

    Here are some references about the underdeveloped teenage brain. I share this to demonstrate that teen girls wearing provocative clothing are not doing so to "invite trouble" because they are not physically capable of linking consequences to actions. The part of the brain responsible for linking consequences has not yet developed at their age. They are simply wearing clothing like that because 1) they like it, 2) it's popular, and 3) it gets them attention. They cannot be held accountable for someone else perverting that attention into a rape!

    “ We often expect children to think like adults when they are not yet capable of doing so.” http://www.childdevelopmentinfo.com/development/piaget.shtml

    “ while teens have as many brain cells as adults, the pre-frontal lobe (the part of the brain that monitors and controls the "primitive" lower brain which is in charge of emotions) of many males does not fully develop until the middle twenties.” http://maxweber.hunter.cuny.edu/pub/eres/EDSPC715_MCINTYRE/BulletProof.html

    “researchers have found that the brain continues developing until about age 25! The teenage brain is developing from the back to the front, from the “old brain” where basic life functions and survival are paramount, to the prefrontal cortex wherein lies our ability to think rationally, organize thoughts, weigh consequences, assume responsibility and interpret emotions. Therefore, our teenagers, to varying degrees, will struggle with the adult behaviors we are asking of them. As a normal part of their development, they will seek thrills, thrive on peer acceptance, and have more difficulty dealing with and recovering from stress than adults do. They find it a biological struggle to “shut down” at night to go to sleep and then troublesome to wake up in the morning. They need more sleep than they have since they were babies or will need as adults. They are driven to feel new sensations while they are unable to cognitively make good decisions about how to regulate those drives. They struggle with delayed gratification and they have difficulty predicting far reaching consequences of their behavior. Teens often lack emotional insight and misread the emotional cues of others. All the while, many adults are treating them as if they were adults.” http://www.familiesonthego.org/Parenting_Tips/Articles/PT0003.htm

  • shera
    shera
    If it isn't legal to participate in sexual conduct with a girl under 18 years of age because that is considered pedophilia and child molestation, shouldn't it also be illegal for girls under 18 to wear makeup, jewelry, and sexually suggestive clothes (like their high school name written on the butt of their shorts)?

    That is where a resonable mature grown up conducts themselves properly and realizes THEY are the adult and know it is wrong to presue under age children,regardless of how they look. I can tell the difference between a young man and a MAN,and I have no desire for a young man.

  • Scully
    Scully
    Don't young attractive girls realize that they are inviting trouble when they dress like harlots?



    "Young attractive girls" who "dress like harlots" are more than likely trying to emulate their favorite singers or popular young actresses or famous wealthy socialites that are constantly plastered in front of their eyes in media that is targeted directly at them. I have talked to my pre-teen daughters about it, believe me. But "being like" someone they admire as the epitome of beauty is what their brain fathoms; the fact that there are perverts out there who would like to have their way with someone like them is something they can't fathom. Having a sense of immortality, and that nothing they do can cause them harm is totally within the norm for their developmental state.

    Adult males are supposed to know right from wrong and let their brain, not their penis, do their thinking for them.

    ::::goes off to Google "where to purchase firearms":::::

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    I am still concerned that having the name of one's high school printed on one's butt is a turn-on to adult males. What about a SpongeBob or Sesame Street t-shirt?

  • Scully
    Scully

    rebel, I don't think it would make a difference if the girl was wearing a burka and hijab. I highly doubt that the incidence of sexual abuse of minors is any different in nations where the burka and hijab are required forms of dress for young attractive women.

    Part of the pathological thinking of sexual abusers (and any other kind of abuser) is that they accept no responsibility for their behaviour, and always attempt to find an excuse to blame their behaviour on their victims.

  • enosant
    enosant

    Here's a spanner in the works:

    I wonder is anyone here has read 'The Naked Ape' by Desmond Morris? If so, they'll be able to see the connection between what he says and this topic.

    He maintains that modern man (as in humandkind) has kept a lot of the attibutes of the ape and use them to deal with the modern world and re sex he says the male prefers nubile young women because of their better health and their reproductive potential (as per natural selection).

    He also maintains the females sub-consciously seek male association & bear more flesh around the time they are most fertile and sleep around in order to increase the chances that their offspring carries a better blend of genes. Females prefer older more powerful mature men because of the resources they provide for her and her offsprings. All this is carried over from the ape world into the modern ape world.

    Morris maintains that observing human behaviour in this regard it is evident that the modern world has advanced far more quickly than our basic physiology (despite losing our body air and using moisturiser!) and we are still using old evolutionary instints amd approaches that are at odds with the modern world and what's expected of it.

    Some of the comments from various sides in this thread doesn't contradict any of this.

    There's a lot more to this, but as an aid I'll quote from this paper on the web:

    According to Desmond Morris (1967), this took place along with the switch from front-to-rear to front-to-front mating, the pendulous shape and cleavage of the breasts mimicking the pre-existing attractiveness of the female buttocks. This also, according to the theory, explains why men find other pendulous shapes (like ear lobes) and other cleavages (like toes in low-vamped shoes) such a turn-on.

    And while we're on the subject, what other female attributes turn men on? Gentlemen prefer young, nubile women, with lips like rubies, eyes like limpid pools, skin like silk, breasts like a milch cow, and legs like a race horse.

    According to evolutionary theory, this is not the result of either Hollywood or Madison Avenue, but because all of these features have served as cues to a female's health, reproductive potential and sexual availability over the course of human evolutionary history. Evolution has built into every red-blooded male a desire to find "Pornotopia"--the fantasy land where "sex is sheer lust and physical gratification, devoid of more tender feelings and encumbering relationships, in which women are always aroused, or at least easily arousable, and ultimately are always willing" (Symons, p. 171).

    The entire cosmetics, fashion, and pornography industries are attempts to create Pornotopia here on Earth.

    Italics mine


    enosant
    Un peut de bien ne peut faire de mal - es.67
  • Satanus
    Satanus
    Pornotopia here on Earth.

    S

  • enosant
    enosant

    Earlier LadyLee wrote:

    WARNING: Some of the following is a little graphic.

    LadyLee, words would lack and fail to describe the horror that you must have gone through as such a young person and how I felt inside on reading your courageous post! You must be such a strong person to have waded through all that and stand here tall and dignified to tell us about it. You make all of us strenghten our resolve not to descend to our debased instincts but to rise above them. As I've posted elsewhere, men are pigs. Even if sometimes we manage to hide the snorts and disguise the smell .... So sorry.

    Warmest Love.


    enosant
    Un peut de bien ne peut faire de mal - es.67

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