Jacked up Religion!!! God's word for us through Jeremiah!!!

by DATA-DOG 23 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  DATA-DOG

  I slept horribly last night because of stress. It's been a while since I had insomnia, but the meetings are slowly causing that disorder to make a comeback. The " bible " study was one of the most messed up things that I have heard in a long time. Here are some comments:

  Elder's wife: Unlike Churches who excommunicate members, Df'ing is a loving arrangement!

  Elder: Jehovah does not get emotionally involved, and is not sentimental when it comes to someone repenting. Really!!?? What about the prodigal son?! What about paragraph 16 ?? It read, " He becomes "boisterous" with tender emotions because he wants to forgive all who repent of their sins, even as he did for the Israelites who returned from exile. (Jer. 31:20) " Thanks Elder! WTH!!??

  Elder: The Elders do not want to speak with us repeatedly, so just repent the first time.

  Elder: We can see when someone is heading down a wrong path. So you should listen when the Elders speak. ( which means roll over and just do what the GB tell the CO to tell the Elders to do..)

  Am I the only one who was sickened?!
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  sir82

  Sounds like you got your elders straight from the SS.
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  leaving_quietly

  I felt the same way. I shook my head at a couple of sentences on at box on page 73:

  In relation to a disfellowshipped one:

  "In the world, where there is "no law" from Jehovah, he probably feels a great sense of loss."

  Same paragraph:

  "You must certainly agree, though, that obeying Jehovah and never coming to be without law is much to be preferred."

  (Underlining mine).... detected part of the cult mentality here... we are told what to think.

  Another thought that occurred to me was in paragraph 10, under the subjeading "Jehovah's Forgiveness - Freely Given But Not Automatic":

  "Still, he does not pardon sins automatically. Why not? Because sin is repugnant to Jehovah (Isa. 59:2) Therefore, he wants to be sure that we are worthy of his forgiveness."

  NOT ONE MENTION OF CHRIST'S RANSOM THAT IS FOR FORGIVENESS OF SINS!!!!! (Col 1:13,14)
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  DATA-DOG

  The situation is just frustrating. I wish the Org would tank. I love the people, but not their actions. I know LQ.. The GB love OT studies! They want to be under the law! They choose it for themselves because they have no real faith. Then they force others to be under law, or they will expell them from the congregation! It's deplorable.
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  Sulla

  Elder's wife: Unlike Churches who excommunicate members, Df'ing is a loving arrangement!

  Exceptionally awesome. Df'ing is done out of love and not hate, you see. The others, they hate; while we here, we love. That's the difference, of course: we are us and they are not us.
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  QC

  DD,

  Knowing your views, I admire your ability to be eyes and ears at the KH for JWN folks like me . Yall that can do that are amazing.
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  tec

  I am sickened now after reading that.

  You all covered countering it ... the prodigal son; angels rejoicing if a single sinner repents; then there is also the theif hanging next to Christ; the adulteress that He forgave; 'if your brother sins against you, rebuke him... and if he repents; forgive him'... NOT... make your brother prove his repentence to your satisfaction.

  Here is one they should keep in mind for themselves, perhaps... "by the measure you use, it will be used against you"

  Peace,

  tammy
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  leaving_quietly

  I think you're right. The organization keeps the thread of disfellowshipping held over its members for one false step. Oh, they say that you're only DF'd if you're unrepentant, but that most certainly is not what the organization teaches elders. If a person commits multiple sins or hides sins over a period of time, there is NO CHOICE but to DF, according to the organization. This is true even if the person comes forward of his own free will and confesses due to a guilty conscience with a desire to make things right with God. Repentance in that case has NOTHING to do with it.
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  OUTLAW

  Lets start with the Bible study..There was no Bible Study..

  You studied WBT$ literature about the Bible..

  Your sick because everything that was said to you was BS..

  And..

  You stayed to Eat more WBT$ Spiritual Food..

  WBT$ Spiritual..

  

  Are you Ready for another WBT$ Spiritual Meal?..

  ............................. ...OUTLAW
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  gma-tired2

  Had the dfing talk with sister in law this week. I saw has unreasonable they are when it comes to shunnîng. I would have had more success talking to a rock.