by Ethos 529 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
I still can't read Page 18 on my work browser...and it's challenging to read on my phone. I have to back up to page 17 and post replies. :(
Never a JW: Good research! Have you shared the results with your JW loved ones? Maybe you can create a thread and post your results?
Londo,
Even though VAT 4956 has been discussed ad infinitum, it doesn't hurt to have another program corroborating what many scholars and astronomy programs have confirmed: The Watchtowwer leaders lie.
Regarding my beloved JW's (relatives and friends), I would have to train them on neo-Babylonian calendars and cuneiform tablets first before they understand the significance of the great matches for 568/567 BCE and the utterly bad "matches" for Furulli's 588/587 BCE
Here's a part of my research, only the good matches. Scroll to the right with the lower bar to see the entire table
37th year of Nabuchadnezzar or Julian Year 568/567 BC, beginning April 23, 568 (more precisely April 22 after sunset) and ending April 12, 567 BC at sunset | ||||||||||||||
Month | Day | First Day | Julian | Interval | Measured | Begin | End | Interval | Degrees | Differ | Abs. | Judgement | Difference | |
(Babyl.) | Julian | Date | VAT 4956 | Sky X | Sky X | Sky X | (decimal) | ence | Diff | Call | (minutes) | |||
I | 14 | 23-Apr | May 6, 568 | SR-MS | 4 | 5:13:42 | 5:30:08 | 0:16:26 | 4.11 | 0.11 | 0.11 | Excellent | 0.43 | min. |
II | 26 | 23-May | June 17, 568 | MR-SR | 23 | 3:17:06 | 4:46:32 | 1:29:26 | 22.26 | -0.74 | 0.74 | Excellent | 2.97 | min. |
III | 1 | 21-Jun | June 20, 568 | SS-MS | 20 | 7:08:52 | 8:36:47 | 1:27:55 | 21.98 | 1.98 | 1.98 | Good | 7.92 | min. |
III | 15 | 21-Jun | July 5, 568 | SR-MS | 7.5 | 4:49:11 | 5:23:21 | 0:34:10 | 8.54 | 1.04 | 1.04 | Very good | 4.17 | min. |
XI | 1 | 13-Feb | Feb 12, 567 | SS-MS | 14.5 | 5:43:23 | 6:52:59 | 1:09:36 | 17.40 | 2.90 | 2.90 | Acceptable | 11.60 | min. |
XII | 1 | 15-Mar | March 14, 567 | SS-MS | 25 | 6:06:26 | 7:49:07 | 1:42:41 | 25.67 | 0.67 | 0.67 | Excellent | 2.68 | min. |
XII | 12 | 15-Mar | March 26, 567 | SR-MS | 1.5 | 6:08:52 | 6:12:00 | 0:03:08 | 0.75 | -0.75 | 0.75 | Excellent | 3.00 | min. |
Average difference | 0.74 | 1.17 | ||||||||||||
Who was the LAST king of Judah?
There is another part of the dating from 607-1914 that seems to be overlooked. It was stressed to me as I was studying as a JW that the said calculation of 2520, were a secondary interpretation of the 7 times of madness that befell king nebuchadnezzar. It was stressed that it was also intended to point to the King with the LEGAL RIGHT to rule as these gentile times ended.
Subsequently, the WTS pick Zedekiah as the last king of Judah. and calculate the 2520 years of Gentile times from his dethronement in 607 BC
However was King Zedekiah the LAST LEGAL RECOGNISED KING ? ..
I don't believe so. Matthew chapter 1, gives the list off the royal line and at verses 11-13, shows that Jechoniah was considered the last king that was dethroned and exiled to Babylon. Also Jeremiah's letter to the exiles during Babylon's 70 year reign, states that the exiles, namely Daniels group and Jechoniah's group would be blessed and returned, however king Zedekiah who was still ruling in Jerusalem was cursed for assuming the title of king on Gods throne.
So Who was the LAST legal king in Judah ?
Excellent work, Never a JW!
If they are willing to be trained…train them! If you can just help one person in this regard, that will be worthwhile. Unless the Governing Body declares the Sky apostate, this should not be threatening to them. After all, the Bible says “make sure of all things.” If the Society is telling the truth, their case will only be bolstered by research. The sky does not lie.
More cut and pastes and red herrings. Daniel 1:1 and VAT4956 will take this discussion into another direction. Jeffro and others keep pretending I havent answered any questions when I already showed several pages back I addressed every on topic question and even a few off topic questions that keep taking this discussion in another direction.
Why all the distractions? Is it because my exegesis of Jeremiah's usage of the word abad proved the silly 609 interpretation wrong? I think so.
There are no distractions, but corroborating evidence. If we’ve two competing interpretations of the Bible that neither side relents on, the corroborating evidence should lean to one interpretation or the other.
Be careful of the words 'I' and 'my', pride is before a crash. See Daniel 4.
I am not opposed to discussing Daniel 1:1/secular evidence. I just dont see the point as no matter what I say, what references I use, and whatever exegesis I use it will always be said to not be proved. They will say I do not answer questions. They will say in Jeffro's words: You're wrong, the historians are confused, and every source you list is wrong.
Is it because my exegesis of Jeremiah's usage of the word abad proved the silly 609 interpretation wrong? I think so.
I've already demonstrated the flaws in your 'analysis' of the Hebrew word abad.
It doesn't mean exile. A person can be serving (abad) irrespective of whether they are or are not in exile (galah).
They will say in Jeffro's words: You're wrong, the historians are confused, and every source you list is wrong.
Please indicate where I used these words?
Also still waiting for you to back up your libellous claims about plagiarism.
Ethos:
More cut and pastes and red herrings.
I don't see any "cut and pastes" (or red herrings) since your last post. The only thing that might look like a 'cut-and-paste' is the table inserted by never a jw, but he indicates it to be his own research.
