Talked to my wife and mother in law about it. My wife know how I feel about this whole org. She herlself, without questioning told me that she could not wait for it to end. Even the oldest of the elders, he stepped on the platform to give the closing prayer as soon as AM3 walked off the mic. He did not expect hte closing remarks or he was really eager to go home. Today I talked to my wife about it and apparently she was not listening when AM3 clarified that, if we had a problem with his remarks, we had to take it up with God. Ask my mother in law and she also thought they were opinions, not law. I reminded them once again about his opening comments (God told him to say these things) and they both commented that this man might have been a bit harsh.
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Zone Visit feedback, from ones still in??
by Crazyguy injust wondering if any one has heard from ones still asleep, what their feedback has been and what comments have been made by the rank and file??.
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I have two take aways from the zoned out meeting
by Sour Grapes inout of three hours only two things really caught my attention.
i was surprised there was no special annoucements or more new light.
the first thing is that we know that the org is having a difficult time having young males reach out to be a ministerial servents to carry microphones and adjust the height of the podium.
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LMAO!
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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WOW! You guys have it all wrong! Specially you GC!!!! I have come to expect more of you!!!
Did you not see the faith testing announcement? There is a reason it was “testing”! It was hidden, somewhat subliminal! You should be ashamed of yourselves! Had you been paying attention, such as a spiritual person like me, you would have seen noticed it.
Had you not learned anything? Did we not study already that Jesus spent thousands if not millions of years learning from his father, Jehovah?
Did you not see what Bro Morris said? If your kid is not an MS by age 23, you are a bad parent!
Would your faith not be tested if you came to find out that your beloved God is a bad parent? I mean, c’mon, how worst can it possibly get? Jesus did not even get baptized by age 23, much less become an MS. What kind of father spends millions of years teaching his son with such poor outcome?
Its official guys! We got not God anymore other than the GB
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I have two take aways from the zoned out meeting
by Sour Grapes inout of three hours only two things really caught my attention.
i was surprised there was no special annoucements or more new light.
the first thing is that we know that the org is having a difficult time having young males reach out to be a ministerial servents to carry microphones and adjust the height of the podium.
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WOW! You guys have it all wrong! Did you not see the faith testing announcement? There is a reason it was “testing”! It was hidden, somewhat subliminal! You should be ashamed of yourselves! Had you been paying attention, such as a spiritual person like me, you would have seen noticed it.
Had you not learned anything? Did we not study already that Jesus spent thousands if not millions of years learning from his father, Jehovah?
Did you not see what Bro Morris said? If your kid is not an MS by age 23, you are a bad parent!
Would your faith not be tested if you came to find out that your beloved God is a bad parent? I mean, c’mon, how worst can it possibly get? Jesus did not even get baptized by age 23, much less become an MS. What kind of father spends millions of years teaching his son with such poor outcome?
Its official guys! We got not God anymore other than the GB
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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Time to open a business selling millstones... demand is posed to skyrocket.
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Very truth Vidiot. Sometimes I think that, as much as I know my wife is smarter than this, the sole idea of realizing how much they ignored her deceased father, would make her depressed to no end. To know she wasted a life with her father in the name of this lie, would probably kill her.
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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What is funny to mention that GC mentioned spanish congregations. That is my circuit... 99% spanish. The only thing I would have comment, not necessarilly to justify what he said, but rather further challenge it, is that in hispanic communities it is harder to come about. Specially in the ultra conservative ones, where no one imagines ever leaving a child behind with a non-relative. Never alone. There is, therefore, much lower chances of this happening in a hispanic cong. Pedophilia would not have the same shocking effect on these congregations as it would have in others, because it would too difficult for most of them to imagine that a responsbile parent let them be in a situtation where abuse could happen. Not denying it, I am just speaking in general probability.
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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OH hey Gustav... since you seem to know everything and you seem to think that this gathering of the poor is so harmonious with the word of God. Explain the following please...
The org built a new Assembly Hall in our area about 3 years ago. This was seen by most as the greatest blessing from Jehovah in their lifetime. The reason? The average household income in the are is bellow $12K annually. One of the poorest areas in the US. But that was not the only reason they felt so blessed. In this circuit, 60% of the brothers are illegal inmigrants from latin america. They were never able to attend the 3 day assemblies in Houston, not only because it was expensive to them, but also because they don't have the legal documents to travel far from the Texas border without being deported. So please tell me...
-How is it the the org never deemed it necessary to have a local assembly for them? Because my mother in law has been a witness for a while and she never had one here, only after the assembly hall was built.
- But the better question is... how to do you explain that, after spending 5 million plus interest, our circuit had no assemblies in that hall in all of 2014? We were all sent to Houston or other areas. Our undocumented brothers were once again left in the dark.
That the slave does not know the condition of this brothers is not an answer.
I know the God I believe in, Jehovah, would have not done this.
I expect an answer.
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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I continued to be amazed by the number of apologists who seems to think that a small sin is not a problem. Apparently Jehovah is too busy explaining frugal details about the virgins, or sending instructions to kids as to what should be in ther field bag, but has no interest on the issues that are not only stumbling many, but also costing his dear org so much resources.
They are so deluded in their thinking that they have completely forgotten what this is all about. I've gone to one other site where some guy attempts to explain the whole Malawi-Mexico thing, excusing the WT in Mexico by saying that this "briving the officials was a customary practice at the time". So this seems like is reason enough for them to let the Malawi brothers die.
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Nov 2014 KM - a text message counts as a return visit!
by EndofMysteries inif you don't know, km's are now online too.
under the heading, "i cannot find him at home again!
" it mentions how a text message or email is to be counted as a return visit.
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How long before the WT gets sued to harrasement? I mean, does it sound too crazy to think that, while chances are no one will give his number to a stranger knocking the door, eventually a crazy pioneer may spam his potential convert with text messages or emails?