Posts by StarTrekAngel

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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StarTrekAngel

OH hey Gustav... since you seem to know everything and you seem to think that this gathering of the poor is so harmonious with the word of God. Explain the following please...

The org built a new Assembly Hall in our area about 3 years ago. This was seen by most as the greatest blessing from Jehovah in their lifetime. The reason? The average household income in the are is bellow $12K annually. One of the poorest areas in the US. But that was not the only reason they felt so blessed. In this circuit, 60% of the brothers are illegal inmigrants from latin america. They were never able to attend the 3 day assemblies in Houston, not only because it was expensive to them, but also because they don't have the legal documents to travel far from the Texas border without being deported. So please tell me...

-How is it the the org never deemed it necessary to have a local assembly for them? Because my mother in law has been a witness for a while and she never had one here, only after the assembly hall was built.

- But the better question is... how to do you explain that, after spending 5 million plus interest, our circuit had no assemblies in that hall in all of 2014? We were all sent to Houston or other areas. Our undocumented brothers were once again left in the dark.

That the slave does not know the condition of this brothers is not an answer.

I know the God I believe in, Jehovah, would have not done this.

I expect an answer.

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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StarTrekAngel

I continued to be amazed by the number of apologists who seems to think that a small sin is not a problem. Apparently Jehovah is too busy explaining frugal details about the virgins, or sending instructions to kids as to what should be in ther field bag, but has no interest on the issues that are not only stumbling many, but also costing his dear org so much resources.

They are so deluded in their thinking that they have completely forgotten what this is all about. I've gone to one other site where some guy attempts to explain the whole Malawi-Mexico thing, excusing the WT in Mexico by saying that this "briving the officials was a customary practice at the time". So this seems like is reason enough for them to let the Malawi brothers die.

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Nov 2014 KM - a text message counts as a return visit!

by EndofMysteries in

if you don't know, km's are now online too.

under the heading, "i cannot find him at home again!

" it mentions how a text message or email is to be counted as a return visit.

StarTrekAngel

How long before the WT gets sued to harrasement? I mean, does it sound too crazy to think that, while chances are no one will give his number to a stranger knocking the door, eventually a crazy pioneer may spam his potential convert with text messages or emails?

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JC's and recordings?

by punkofnice in

i know there are recordings out there of jcs and more to come.

i imagine the average drone wouldn't dream of recording a jc but those who are aware of the tatt might record jcs if they bother to attend.. i'm wondering (yes, another idle speculation post...sorreeeeeee), with the advent of more being recorded if the wbt$ will change their tack on how jcs are conducted?

leave it the same?.

StarTrekAngel

I have the facebook profile of one of the most arrogant elders in my cong. Screenshoot of this "followed" page. He's got a couple of porn stars there. Strategy is that if I ever get pulled into a JC, I would let it run its course (Record it off course). Appeal and then claim the holly spirit could had not possibly be present in that JC, based on the facts.

They did the same to me and my wife. Unfortunately I was out of town when they called her in. While the matter was trivial, the attitude bothered me even more. Having been such a trivial issue, there was no need to pull her. All they had to do was call me or wait two days and ask us together.

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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StarTrekAngel

Aww! Cofty, did you not know this is a progressive organization? So sad of you that you can not adapt to the changing times... See Jehovah is the God that created quantum mechanichs. In such science, it can be explained that two objects can be in two places at once. Same way, Jehovah's organization can be both, right and wrong at the same time. When observed, though.. it will always be right.

Don't take it too seriously bro! I am being sarcastic!

I am actually glad the WTBT$ has not caught to that idea... they may just use it.

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Nov 2014 KM - a text message counts as a return visit!

by EndofMysteries in

if you don't know, km's are now online too.

under the heading, "i cannot find him at home again!

" it mentions how a text message or email is to be counted as a return visit.

StarTrekAngel

haha! Look at this guy.. is almost entertaining! Where were you when our elder announced the lower attendance to the memorial (2014 lower compared to 2013) and told us the reason was that we changed the venue from the KH to a party hall and people went to the wrong place? Oh... despite one place being next door to the other... yeah.. people are dumb, did not realize all of us in suits waiting in the same parking lot.

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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StarTrekAngel

Mr GC, I went on typing a response to you. Then I figured it out after a while that you are not worth it.

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Nov 2014 KM - a text message counts as a return visit!

by EndofMysteries in

if you don't know, km's are now online too.

under the heading, "i cannot find him at home again!

" it mentions how a text message or email is to be counted as a return visit.

StarTrekAngel

hahaha! its coming! During our international convention one of the bethelites expressed dismay at the fact that Mormons had stated that the new way to reach people was over social media. The bethelite ensure us that JW would never, ever abandon the door to door preaching in favor of social media. Can anyone see the foot coming to the mouth on this one?

If texting and email are ok, what is really left to move over to facebook and do the same?

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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StarTrekAngel

I personally think that one way to make them change would be that we all agree to stop donating... those that can at least. Even that little counts once you add everybody up.

When I brought this up to my wife (she still very much in, prefers to ignore some of the bad things) I told her that most members of other churches would agree to donate, even if they had many grievances towards their faith. Just the thought that it takes a bit of money to run a place that we all use (the KH) but that given the new arrangement on donations and the fact that all left overs will be sent to the WT, I could not conciously support this organization anymore. To my surprise she agreed. Haven't made a single donation in over a year.

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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StarTrekAngel

Provided that we are all just speculating and that no one know for sure if there will be any announcements at all, most of us are hopeful for the hints at the next 1975-like fiasco. You would see that the hype about 1975 did not come in one meeting of this sort. It was build up over the years, but certain key speeches or magazine articles, now in hinsight, gave all the understanding that it was coming. Had we been in that situation back then, we could have warned our loved ones. We are just in the lookout for those things.