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  State A Simple Opinion About JWD Members

  by nicolaou in

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  we share a common past but have travelled many different roads to find each other here.

  our outlooks and perceptions of reality are varied and often fascinating.

  most of us are encouraging, funny, helpful and kind while others are still wrapped in bitterness and hatred or suffering from despair and privation.

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  potleg

  Alike in many ways, different in many ways. We share the common bond in having broken free from an uncommon bondage.
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  Can You Stand One More Thread on " Generation "?- Check this Out- Weird !

  by flipper in

  1. jw
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  alrighty then .

  i'm as burnt out as you probably are reading more threads about the faulty witness view of the " generation ".

  but please hear me out from a common sense viewpoint here.

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  potleg

  Bravo Rapunzel, you really let your hair down there. I think you're absolutely right.
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  Can You Stand One More Thread on " Generation "?- Check this Out- Weird !

  by flipper in

  1. jw
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  alrighty then .

  i'm as burnt out as you probably are reading more threads about the faulty witness view of the " generation ".

  but please hear me out from a common sense viewpoint here.

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  potleg

  OnTheWayOut, I agree with you 100% but we are in the minority. I don't see a mass exodus in the millions.

  I think the WT growth will grind to a halt and then begin a slow protracted decline due to some leaving and others dying. Most importantly they are losing the upcoming generations.

  The glory days of double digit sustained growth are over in my opinion.

  As more time passes their predictions take on a comical look. A fools comedy of errors. They'll try a soft aproach, then a hard line, then something else, who knows what, but they and their flip-flop doctrines have been exposed and can't be hidden anymore. Thats the trouble with putting things in writitng, isn't it? Sometimes it comes back to bite you in the arse.

  Who let the dogs out?
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  Can You Stand One More Thread on " Generation "?- Check this Out- Weird !

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  alrighty then .

  i'm as burnt out as you probably are reading more threads about the faulty witness view of the " generation ".

  but please hear me out from a common sense viewpoint here.

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  potleg

  How many times will the society keep re-inventing itself? As many as it takes to attract new members and keep them.

  Do you think that if they had held on to Russells teachings of pyramidology and the divine plan of the ages they would be this big fat rich corporation? No Way.

  If they still used Rutherfords tactics of information marches and sound cars blasting venom in front of churches they would have the millions of followers they have? Not a Chance.

  Could they still hold peoples attention as Franz did with types, anti types, days, weeks of years, assemblies fulfilling scriptures, Cedar Point (Yawn) I think Not.

  Their target audience has shifted, people don't have the attention span and interests that they once did. Fred Franz and the like have become museum pieces. Thier books have no appeal and so are abandoned, they've become revered has beens. Yesterdays stale bread.

  Now were in the era of "look at the pretty picture of fruit pickers and don't worry about the details too much."

  The vast majority of JWs don't really care about the generation thing as long as they keep getting reassurance that happy times are just around the corner. This is becoming even more central the WTs survival as poorer, less educated folks from third world countries are exposed to their message.

  It reminds me of the europeans trading with native people...give us your land for these shiny glass beads and the like. Except now it's give us your life for these nice pictures and empty promises.

  As time goes on, all that we see now will be put aside. New Light will flash and the organization will yet again shed another slippery skin... just like the snakes in the grass that they really are.
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  Can You Stand One More Thread on " Generation "?- Check this Out- Weird !

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  alrighty then .

  i'm as burnt out as you probably are reading more threads about the faulty witness view of the " generation ".

  but please hear me out from a common sense viewpoint here.

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  potleg

  Their original explanation that the ones who saw 1914 would not die before the end made the most sense ... until they died!

  The WT was WRONG WRONG WRONG. Most people at this point would recognize that they were not directed by God.

  To counter this the WT now invents it's own definition of generation and claims "New Light" from god. Brilliant!

  This makes all the dubs happy because they are back on "firm ground", god is still directing his org, all's well and that's what they want to hear. That's what they NEED to hear to make their live make sense. We all need a sense of certainty in life, unfortunately, JWs have surrendered their thinking and reasoning ability to the organization, they remind me of those little birds in a nest with eyes shut tight and mouths wide open, clamouring for worms.

  The new light doctrine is THE most important doctrine of all because it allows the WT to shift in any direction it wants while still claiming gods backing. If they said god had shown them that a generation is 500 years long, who would the dubs believe? A man made dictionary or the spirit directed org? We all know the answer.

  It's a case of the blind leading the blind. All you need is faith.
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  God is attending to an emergency elsewhwere

  by edmond dantes in

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  after considering all available scenarios i am of the opinion that the creator started project planet earth and then unexpectedly got called away to another job, maybe to an emergency at the other side of a black hole and it is taking longer than than he first assumed to fix it.at the beginning he got as far as creating life on earth and then whoosh !

  he was away leaving the world not quite right.. bearing that in mind it is up to us ,the human race,to run things to the best of our abilities until the good lord comes back and continues where he left off.we have to make sure that we look after the total package for him and ourselves and as far as is possible trying to right the wrongs.you know what i mean , we have to be keepers' and carers' and not religious nuts.. when the creator comes back he can answer all the questions we need to know but until then let's just get on with the task ahead..

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  Maybe the "emergency job" he had to atttend to involved bowel evacuation. Listen up for the sound of many waters. Then a only then will he return to finish what he started.

  HOPE HE WASHES HIS HANDS.
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  The Watchtower and The Memorial

  by jakes in

  1. jw
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  the fundamental doctrines of the watchtower hinge on one teaching, and that is that jerusalem was destroyed in 607bce.

  it is well documented by now that not one secular source supports the date given by the watchtower for the fall of jerusalem.

  in the field of archaeology much work has been done since the 1800s when this date was first coined.

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  potleg

  The slippery old goats in their ivory towers have wormed their way out of bigger stuf than this in the past. 1914 is almost forgotten now, this religion is always re-inventing itself.

  The new light doctrine is their most important teaching, because of it they can come up with anything that suits them.
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  What Song Describes Your Mood Right Now?

  by momzcrazy in

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  i'll share kenny chesney you save me.

  http://youtube.com/watch?v=tnflvudgj48.

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  potleg

  At this very moment I'm listening to Pink Floyd, RUN LIKE HELL. I'm glad I did and advise anybody in the WT to do the same.
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  How many borg members believe the genocide teaching?

  by ldrnomo in

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  just wondering, most members i've talked to over the years including me did not really think jehovah was going to destroy everyone that was not a jw or even half of everyone who was not a dub.

  even a prominent elder in the cong i was in didn't buy that teaching (probabley because his daughter was not in) .

  so how many do you think believe this teaching?

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  potleg

  I think most JW's believe it but are very uncomfortable with it so they like to shut those thoughts out of their minds. From my oservations within my family certain ones believe that at the end of days the unbelieving members will get a jolt of reality and on come in.

  Has the society toned down this part of their message over the past few years....I think so, but watch out because with their membership retention problems it's time to weild the big A stick again. I think there's a shift towards the hard line again, infact I believe it's already started. Gov. Body reps talking about radiation and tsunamis are just the begining.
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  Rejected by best friend

  by Samuel Thorsen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my best friend for many years says he can't see me anymore because i tear down what he tries to build up.

  (his faith for j-dubism.).

  i am inactive but not df-ed and this guy is a ms but he is really to smart to not see the borg bull$h!t.

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  potleg

  Yeah, maybe you can agree to disagree for right now. Perhaps if he sees you functioning well and happily outside the Org it will pique his curiosity. However, as you know the Org considers you (and most of us here) to be a bad associates and he may feel under pressure to abandon the friendship you once had.

  As you say, he is smart, but is he strong enough to get up, look up, check things out for himself, and hopefully leave?