DwainBowman

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  **MUST READ** AlanF's email to Knocking.org

  by sf in

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  this is a must-read that, hopefully, will stay an "active topic" for all seekers and lurkers, by bumping it to the top as often as possible.

  alan wrote it in randys {dogpatch} thread regarding knocking.org documentary and in reply to the email mr. engardio sent to barbara anderson.

  however, it is so vital a read that it indeed needs its own thread:.

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  DwainBowman

  You summed so much up!

  Thank You!

  Dwain
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  Family gathering before disfellowshiping

  by Mattieu in

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  if you were/are in the sydenham (melbourne/victoria) congo you may be very familiar with this a few years back.

  a prominent elder who likes the sound of his own voice (hint, his initials are william saad) yes of quite a well connected family, was on a judicial committee who was disfellowshiping one of his own male relatives for repeated marijuana usage.. this story by the way shows how corrupt the whole system is.

  as williams family (elders and c/o) had covered up the previous few sorrid outcomes of his drug usage, they couldn't contain the last public viewing of his drug dependency, witnessed by many witnesses ironically... so they held a jc to disfellowship him.

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  I have known of so many parties arranged because a family member was going to be df'ed next week!

  One of my favorites was, a young 20's something, was appointed as an elder, his family had a big part for his promotion, two weeks later it come out he was going to be a dad, to a single sister in the cong, and his wife knew all about the 2 year long affair, and she was in on it as well. Anyway, his family and her's, had a going away party, for them. two years later he was reinstated, along with his wife. 3 years down the road he was reappointed as an MS, 2 more years, appointed as a n elder. 3 years later the cong PO. Then about 7 years down the road, the whole body of elders was removed in that cong, for covering up more of this guys doing's. By the way, his dad and uncle were both elders in the same cong!

  The borgdom is sure something!!!!
  
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  The new LDC / RBC Requirements

  by DwainBowman in

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  2. beliefs

  the new ldc / rbc.

  requirements.

  there are many requirements, but when you get to the end of the form.

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  Yes you do. You have to have your RBC card, and be a pioneer, to count time. And like you said, publishers just don't count for much!!!!

  As of right now, the RBC is to some extant in operation, but they only carry out what the LDC tells them to do.

  Dwain
  
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  The new LDC / RBC Requirements

  by DwainBowman in

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  the new ldc / rbc.

  requirements.

  there are many requirements, but when you get to the end of the form.

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  It blows my mind the pioneers can get moist of their time in working on building projects! And only token FS, that's supposed to be so important! If I remember right they can also count project time at bigger stuff as well!

  Dwain
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  The new LDC / RBC Requirements

  by DwainBowman in

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  the new ldc / rbc.

  requirements.

  there are many requirements, but when you get to the end of the form.

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  I totally agree Stillin, I spent many long days and nights on KH projects, back when I was able. And before that, day and night at CA/DC! I have so many Wonder fun memories from all of those days!

  I even have many greast memories from pioneering, and fs!

  But when you get your eyes open, to the truth of the matter, it hurts on such a deep level!

  Dwain
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  The new LDC / RBC Requirements

  by DwainBowman in

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  2. beliefs

  the new ldc / rbc.

  requirements.

  there are many requirements, but when you get to the end of the form.

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  Not even a choice to build a new KH, or even where to put one if needed!
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  The new LDC / RBC Requirements

  by DwainBowman in

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  the new ldc / rbc.

  requirements.

  there are many requirements, but when you get to the end of the form.

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  Sorry, I forget were all not keeping up with the cart : )

  The first KH building program was called "Quick Build" and got started in the late 70's early 80's. It took some time to soak in that building a KH in 3 days did not make a very good building, and most of them started having problems quickly! That was replaced by the RBC, Regional Building, in this system, states were cut up into areas, and the projects expanded to 2, 3 day weekends. And much tighter control on the workers, with everyone having to apply, and be approved by the elders, and the RBC. Now enter the LDC, Local Design, it breaks the country into 11? LDC areas, the power is totally removed from local elders over anything but truly minor repair work on there KH. The 11? LDC's decide everything 100%. KH's will be inspected on a regular basis, by an inspection team, that report to the RDC. There are also teams that will go out and teach local cong, the proper up keep, and cleaning process, and products. One floor plan, adjustable in size. NO local choice in anything!
  
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  The new LDC / RBC Requirements

  by DwainBowman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the new ldc / rbc.

  requirements.

  there are many requirements, but when you get to the end of the form.

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  The New LDC / RBC. Requirements

  There are many requirements, but when you get to the end of the form. Here it explains, that if you sign and send in the form, your agreeing, that the LDC must come first. If they call today with an assignment, you must be ready to drop everything, and go to that assignment, maybe in a few days, and be ready to stay up to 6 months maybe longer!
  
  My B I L, was an RBC paint crew captain, he was so excited about this new program, and getting "USED" in a larger area, and getting to hob nob, with even higher up big shots than ever before. That's all I have hears about, until this morning. He came to my shop looking pretty upset. He told me about that requirement, and that there was just no way, he could agree to it! Being a small big shout in the RBC, with Hope's of moving up the food chain, being smashed, in a matter of seconds!
  
  I had a hard time feeling sorry for him!
  
  This is going to blow a lot of peoples, Wet dreams!
  
  Dwain

  “We believe the reality that is presented to us.”
  "Never push a Loyal person, to the point, they no longer, give a DAMM"
  So oftentimes it happens that we live our lives in chains, and we never even know we have the key...
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  Elders' Authority - Flock Book

  by berrygerry in

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  the biggest surprise in the flock book was the hiding-for 3-years serious sin absolution provision for elders (if with "jehovah's evident blessing").. the second is the remark regarding an inactive person, and the situation:.

  "is the person willing to meet with a committee, thus admitting accountability to the christian congregation?".

  now, the bible says: i want you to know that the head of every man is the christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the christ is god.

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  How many is a few. I always heard it defined as between 3 to 7. The Dictionary's vary, More than 1 and less than a dozen!

  And when it comes to elders, you never know how they would determine it to be. Plus you have to factor in, if the elder in question, is really liked by all the others, if not, his goose would be cooked!!!

  I believe most bodies of elders would can, child molesters!
  
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  Elders' Authority - Flock Book

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the biggest surprise in the flock book was the hiding-for 3-years serious sin absolution provision for elders (if with "jehovah's evident blessing").. the second is the remark regarding an inactive person, and the situation:.

  "is the person willing to meet with a committee, thus admitting accountability to the christian congregation?".

  now, the bible says: i want you to know that the head of every man is the christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the christ is god.

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  I love this one! How many times over the years have I heard, that if one has commited sin's, they HAD to be reported, and handled. Then they pointed out that there's no was to make up for, or pay for these sin's, without elder involvement. Pioneering, going out in fs for long hours, doing everything for the org one can do, won't restore God's favor! Unless your an elder or above, then you can work off the sin.

  I once knew a sister that had pioneered for 20+ years, and after one of these talks, she went andconfessed. It had been years since she had messed up, and it only happens once. In the mean time, she had a number of studies progress to baptism, and always had many studies. She was dfed for two years. They told her, because she was a pioneer, and hiud the sin for so long, her punishment, had to be heavy, to be a warning to others! She was reinstated, but never recovered!