Posts by jonahstourguide

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Special Local Needs From Branch This Week

by kneehighmiah in

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i hear there will be a special local needs outline provided by the branch this week.

does anyone have details?

will this be a regional thing only?

jonahstourguide

Whew,,, thank you Ruby456, thought I was seeing things !!!

No worries, have a good day. There are advantages in living in a

land far far away from the hub of the j dub land.

jtg

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Special Local Needs From Branch This Week

by kneehighmiah in

jw
friends

i hear there will be a special local needs outline provided by the branch this week.

does anyone have details?

will this be a regional thing only?

jonahstourguide

@ Ruby 456

They are doing this in all countries as I understand.

Something similar is being done in Oz, although we aren't aware

of outside involvement but the congregations involved have been

asked to put on a bit of a gig to show the international bros

what " Aussies are all about". Congs are being asked to host either 56

or 112 delegates for a day including fs, meals in bros homes culminating

in a congregation "get together".

The day will commence 1 pm and run till around 9 pm.

This has been handled separate to any local needs,,,, we still cop the 'do more' talks.

jtg

Edit ,,,what happened to the post about doing auditions etc in the UK////

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"Overlapping generation" explanation - TRANSCRIBED EXTRACT from Friday's talk (DC 2011-12)

by AnnOMaly in

i thought this would be easier to examine if written down:.

god's kingdom will soon come.

so we know that god's kingdom will soon come.. .

jonahstourguide

Thought I'd bump this. The wt study this sunday 06 04 14

I believe the posts are excellent in pointing out the floundering logic.

jtg

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Lurking faithful JWs, here's a question for you to ponder on:

by Island Man in

are you in 'the truth', or are you only in 'the current understanding'?.

how long will it be before many of the current teachings peculiar to the organization are rejected as old light and relegated to watchtower's dust bin of old light, out-of-print literature to be expunged from future issues of watchtower library cd-rom?.

jonahstourguide

Great question Island Man.

It highlights the hollow clang of the overused buzz phrase "In the truth".

I for one, have been out for many years. Upon making a return to "see if it so"

for family reasons, I am coming to the conclusion that you cannot conscientiously say

you are "in the truth". You can only say you are one of jw's and your doctrine is that which

the gb decree it to be at any given time. If you are happy with that, good for you.

So then, if you want to be "in" something, you can only

honestly be in the "current understanding of 'truth'" if you like.

In reply to the second question; Many of the old truths and statements are being relegated

to the trash can as we speak. If you quote an old mag in any research and it jars with 'current understanding'

you are quickly and in no uncertain terms advised that "you need to only use the current available research data".

jtg

p.s. Why was Jonah trepidatious about his assignment??? Why are so many jw's feeling the same about their current 'assignment'?.

Jonah looked a bit of a dill didn't he.

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Pondering Noah account

by problemaddict in

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i see my wife being pulled into the org a little again, by some good people and kindness.

she grew up a very happy jw, and to leave is very hard for her.

but she has opened the pandoras box of her brain and can't shut it.. we were discussing blood a couple days ago.

jonahstourguide

Well I've seen the movie and it doesn't help either,,,,,,

jtg

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Anyone going to see the Noah flick?

by ctrwtf in

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wifey says she wants to go to see the special effects.

i suspect she wants to go to see russell crowe.

if you want to see special effects watch gravity.

jonahstourguide

Ha ha, well I did it and it only cost $11.

The only resemblance it had to the bible version was that a bloke called noah with a wife and three sons was in it,

an ark was in it and there was a fair bit of water in it. Honestly, putting aside any pre-concieved notions

of what it should or could have been, it was a disappointment. Crowe performs well below his best.

I love science fiction and special effects, the movie lacked any excitement in the effects dept.

In my view, the movie might be a good tele-movie for the bored. Tell you what, the old Ten Commandments

with Chucky Heston runs rings around this movie with it's old time corny effects and all. In fact if I may suggest,

get a copy of it and watch it instead.

I wasn't robbed, I wasn't cheated. I did what I wanted to do and I enjoyed doing it. You don't have to enjoy the

movie to experience the joy of freedom............ Does that make sense?

jtg

I got this mental picture of jw's sneaking in wearing overcoats and dark sunnies,,, then thinking they should be leaving,,,

Yes it might well be confronting for the die hard jw, confronting concepts of a murderous creator.

Ha ha my twenty cents worth.

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For fellow Beroeans, Gen 49:27

by jonahstourguide in

i thought this was worth sharing.. .

where did the interpretation of gen 49:27 come from ?.

tms review question 4. .

jonahstourguide

Thanks for your thoughts folks.

Cult and Splash, you have described succinctly the thoughts I have, especially when an elder

asks if you believe the fds is the only channel of communication (with that challenging look!)

I was asked this over the generation thing and I replied "ok what about this in our bible highlights for tomorrow?"

He suggested immediately that I'm reading apostate material, my reply " nope I'm quoting from the books in the

fds library, ring em and check!!" He then suggested we would talk about this again later. I would think that we should be honest and

admit our roots,,,,. I love engines,,, and I can build a good strong engine based on my years of knowledge and experience.

If however I was using someone else's expertise, ie a build manual by another engine builder and not tell my clients but continue to

claim I was the best engine builder, would I not in fact be a charlatan?? especially if I didn't acknowledge the other persons expertise?

jtg,,,,,,,,, the light does get brighter.

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what is wrong with WT's "--Will not pass AWAY--" write-ups?

by prologos in

"-- this generation will not pass away until all these things occur--" jesus in math.

24. what are these things?

disasters bigger than the flood?

jonahstourguide

The wbts have erroneously attempted to put a date into this passage for the followers for some years.

There appears no way logically that they can claw back the errors that have been made without

coming clean and stop fabricating a philosophy to enhance a failed prediction.

The only way to fix a blown piston in an internal combustion engine is to replace it with a new one.

As any engine builder knows, the new piston has to be balanced to match the existing ones. For a high

performance engine this is critical, if not done properly it can destroy the complete engine due to imbalance.

At the moment we are looking at a seriously unbalanced engine due to the continual incorrect and unbalanced

piston replacements by incompetent mechanics. Nothing matches up !

My two bobs worth

jtg

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what is wrong with WT's "--Will not pass AWAY--" write-ups?

by prologos in

"-- this generation will not pass away until all these things occur--" jesus in math.

24. what are these things?

disasters bigger than the flood?

jonahstourguide

That's a good question and I am aware of that being queried after a

recent wt, it immediately jarred. I think it was the one you referenced.

I'm just an average joe trying to understand this stuff, and researching references, so,

as you know, before any apologists have a shot at this, it's inexplicable. And I

am blowed if I know. The only explanation that I could construe is in the fashion of

The Goon show "maybe they're not really deaded Neddy, you are only seeing this from a

human stand point Neddy" he heeeee.

It's a bit like trying to prove the overlapping generation scripturally. No can do.

So the position is, we gotta believe what the gb says no questions asked.

jtg

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For fellow Beroeans, Gen 49:27

by jonahstourguide in

i thought this was worth sharing.. .

where did the interpretation of gen 49:27 come from ?.

tms review question 4. .

jonahstourguide

I thought this was worth sharing.

Where did the interpretation of Gen 49:27 come from ?

Who said it first?

TMS review question 4

How did the tribe of Benjamin eventual- ly fulfill the prophecy at Genesis 49:27? [Mar. 24, w12 1/1 p. 29, box] In the “morning” of Israel’s kingly history, Ben- jamin’s descendants included a mighty warrior, King Saul. In the “evening” of that royal history, after the sun had set on Israel’s kingly line, Esther and Morde- cai, both of the tribe of Benjamin, fought effectively against Jehovah’s enemies. In a sense, they also divided spoil, in that Haman’s vast estate went to one of them.

An exerpt from John Gill’s Exposition on Gen 49:27,,,, ( 1697-1771)

Some apply this to particular persons of this tribe, as to Saul the first king of Israel, who was of Benjamin; and who as soon as he took the kingdom of Israel, in the morning, in the beginning of that state, fought against all his enemies on every side, against Moab, Ammon, Edom, the kings of Zobah, and the Philistines, and the Amalekites, 1 Samuel 14:47 and to Mordecai and Esther, who were of the same tribe, who after the captivity, and in the evening of that state, divided the spoil of Haman, Esther 8:1 this is observed by Jarchi, Aben Ezra, and Ben Gersom.

jtg