I find it comical when witnesses verbalize they care about people who have "left Jehovah". They do not even care to be polite anymore especially if that person was disafellowshipped. They are so diligent with the brainwashing and incipient recruits they will not care about a few unavailingly futile documents of Satan's adherents.
looter
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Does everyone here know they are on record with JW's forever?
by runForever inrichard ashe a full-time special servant of the order of jehovah's witnesses testified in the lopez case that every single disfellowshipping and disassociation and other things have all been scanned in 2011 and are and will be on permanent record with jw's forever.
is this legal?
another completely ironic and warped thing is the disfellowshipping form is called the s77 form.
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All things considered, when will THE JW religion end?
by sowhatnow inid give a guess of maybe another 15 to 20 years ,.
nothing will be the same , if there even is a headquarters.. opinion?.
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For a while there will still be the people believing in the hoax. To be plenarily veracious, the religion will culminate once the more incipient generation of governors, owners, or presidents transmute the religion into an even more conspicuous scam. They will do this eventually because they will be crazily desperate to keep people inside the cult just like the governing body is today. But at that time very few witnesses will still be involved. The numbers will go very far down in long time. -
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The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
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Jon Drake, I honestly believe with all the scientific advances, new knowledge, and just an overall better understanding of humanity will help people to eventually wake up from religion in its entirety. We should not have to rid religion by force because I think in the coming centuries people will just stop believing in religion as it slowly becomes unpopular eventually. One example of this is the Spontaneous Generation, an old belief that faded once scientist found out about atoms, elements, protons, and other discoveries. Of course, religion is not just a belief but a system designed to fool people and control them by playing with their emotions and gullibility so it will be lengthy. But I truly believe that somewhere down the line, centuries from now, religion will prove to be highly unsuccessful. Most children today are learning the truth early on because of technology and that will surely affect the coming generations. Since the decline of religion is an ongoing phenomenon, this can become true someday. Instead of trying to vigorously stop religion, we should let it eliminate itself -
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Reason why God wanted/made humans write the scriptures
by looter injehovah's witnesses believe that god sent humans to write the bible because his servants can relate better to humans since they are humans.
i heard that at a meeting two weeks ago.
it does not make sense to me at all but i do not know how to explain it.
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yes. Thanks everyone for making it clear. LisaRose I find your explanation to be very insightful. it is stupid to believe jah let humans write the bible when humans make lots of errors. and God is supposed to make none errors. Zero. So it would make more sense if he wrote it. Simone you made it the most clear. and you know what, it really is that simple. -
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Reason why God wanted/made humans write the scriptures
by looter injehovah's witnesses believe that god sent humans to write the bible because his servants can relate better to humans since they are humans.
i heard that at a meeting two weeks ago.
it does not make sense to me at all but i do not know how to explain it.
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Jehovah's witnesses believe that God sent humans to write the bible because his servants can relate better to humans since they are humans. I heard that at a meeting two weeks ago. It does not make sense to me at all but I do not know how to explain it. a little help please. -
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What do YOU desperately need, but you've been putting it off?
by TerryWalstrom ini don't know why, but i put off getting a haircut way longer than i should.. i might go as long as 5 or 6 months between haircuts.. i desperately need a haircut.. what do you desperately need, but you've been putting it off?.
(disclaimer: minimus is going to be jealous.
this sort of question is his tradmark :).
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Kingdom chorus
by looter inso im at the meeting after its over and this elder says to me that god needs my voice because he, the elder, feels that my singing is not loud enough.
i did not tell him this, but singing just is not my thing.
he then went on saying how gods people are better singers than "the worlds singers".
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Wow man me too. used to sing with so much zeal but now I hate singing period. And when singing in the Kingdom hall, it just takes forever to sit down..
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New forum 'parousia' is upon us! (software version)
by Simon inthe time has nearly come to switch over to the new forum software.
of course it's not completely finished yet (and never will be) but i think it's good enough to go live with and probably already better than the current one.
i'll give you a quick overview of what to expect and post more detail about the changeover process later.. cloud platform.
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Wait. so does this mean the old site will close?
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Men are not looking forward to becoming Elders or Ministerial Servants
by Hidden-Window ini have noticed an apparently increasing number of men who are not interested in becoming ministerial servants or elders.
i also know of some that have voluntarily stepped down (which is my case) for no obvious solid reason.. i remember, during my teenage years or even during my twenties, the brothers were always looking forward to being appointed... although many still do, i have noticed there are many others with whom you do not know what the deal is.. since there is no freedom of speech within the organization, we remain in the dark about the motives and desires of everybody else.
i attend a congregation with only two ministerial servants, while it is full of men who do not seem to be willing to do more.. it is hard to tell exactly what is going on, since honesty is not possible while you are inside, but i am starting to think that more and more are becoming disillusioned.... .
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This will continue being the case for long term. A born-in may have his life dream to become and elder and serve at bethel or bethal. Then by the time he is 19, his life dream is to get a tattoo. I truely think there are more people having doubts than ever. And with the internet's truths about wt/ jw dot org they will continue to seek the true truth. Replying to TD, it possibly can be a lack of ambition but you have to remember that they don't seek achievement because most of us feel or use to feel that everything is already achieved. They know God, Jesus, GB, and are baptized. I guess the only thing they are looking forward to is living in paradise and see life at the present as merely being recreational garbage time. But I'm not sure of this but you do make sense of this.
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YOU 'THINK' YOU ARE FREE when you leave the Org. . . but it can be an ILLUSION
by Terry indid you know there is nothing more insane than being partly indoctrinated and partly free?.
the level of cognitive dissonance is ridiculous!.
i have told this story before, so i'll shorten it to cut to the chase.. in 1987, i was dating a professional psychotherapist with a view to marriage.
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"I've done that to people plenty of times. Now whereever I go, I just leave out that information as if those years never happened and I don't know anything about the bible. It also saved me from stressful conversations." Just avoiding the bible at all cost does it for me. No need to talk about information that you use to blindly believe.