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  Wear were you in the "Pecking order" in the congro??

  by karter in

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  we were right down with the very lowest.. father never a jw we had a po with little mans syndrome and love to pick on sisters that had no husband to stand up for them,he picked on my mother only to find out he picked on the wrong person,she came from a hard up bringing and didn't take any s###t from anyone particularly this little bully and we were very poor...how low can you get!.

  karter..

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  Sabin, your comment. I had to laugh, because that is who I am NOW. As a JW, I was a complete carpet.

  And it is true that some people don't like opinionated women. So be it. Unfortunate, but oh well! :P
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  Wear were you in the "Pecking order" in the congro??

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we were right down with the very lowest.. father never a jw we had a po with little mans syndrome and love to pick on sisters that had no husband to stand up for them,he picked on my mother only to find out he picked on the wrong person,she came from a hard up bringing and didn't take any s###t from anyone particularly this little bully and we were very poor...how low can you get!.

  karter..

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  Dad was an auditor as the conventions, need I say much more? 4th generation, and if you were not JW, you were the low-class, poor relations we didn't associate with. Mother is a saint, known back in the day by folks all over who sent her cards when she broke her neck and had a 'miraculous' recovery.

  Remembering how deep my family is in. When a certain old elder died, I felt SUCH relief. I was so terrified of him and his brother, who kind of 'ruled' our region for the 50s, 60s, thru to the 80s. But I was in my 40s, and didn't realize until he passed, how much fear his name struck in me. We were poor, but no one ever knew it.

  And it wasn't fun to be paraded around as the 'perfect child', on the platform at conventions before school age, teaching a daily scripture to my classmates in primary school. Sick sick cult.

  [ EDIT: lots of marriage offers, starting at age 13, YIKES! just had to emphasize the SICK. ]

  BOO ! But I'm all right meow. haha xx
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  "Even if it isn't the truth, it's still the best way to live"

  by Simon in

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  2. beliefs

  have you heard that old chestnut?

  i have.. typically it's the last resort when you have dismantled a jws beliefs and they have no way of defending them.

  they know they are beat so they come out with that one.. its effectively an admission that you are right and they have no argument but they are still going to attend meetings because they like the social club.. what a lame way to defend your faith..

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  Joyzabel - even though I was young, can still remember his voice at Yankee Stadium assembly my family attended. Very fanatical, and in my child's mind, he scared me, rather like Hitler.

  And this thread reminded me of another JW-ism that was common: "the worst Jehovah's witness is better than the best worldly person".
  
  
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  Who did you believe the scriptures were describing when you were a JW?

  by James Mixon in

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  2. bible

  it never hit me until i was out.

  matt:23;4 "they tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them.

  on other people shoulders".

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  I remember Billy Graham being touted as Satan's tool. This was listening to adult gossip as a child, but they said "when he came here in 196-, they used KFC buckets for collections".

  False prophets - I remember a talk about cults, and the Moonies & their Reverend Sun Myung Moon ... also Children of God. So, that was 60s, 70s. Oh, and the Mormons - Joseph Smith and his addition to the bible, was a false prophet as well.
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  Brooklyn Brownstoner article: Reader Unearths Fascinating 1969 Letter About Then-New Jehovah’s Witnesses HQ

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2016/01/jehovah-witness-history-brooklyn-squibb-1969-donations/.

  reader unearths fascinating 1969 letter about then-new jehovah’s witnesses hq.

  by barbara eldredge 1/25/16.

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  I had never read that full story of Russel and the real estate and subsequent court cases (especially Empire); it really was all about the money. He had great ambition and lust for fame as well, as evidenced by his need for recognition.

  That's quite the connection to the story, too, Ms. Anderson. : D I can well imagine that those were exciting times, being young and zealous. The real evils were not apparent in those days.
  
  One thing this article made me remember ... 1969 ... the Awake! (TM) front cover about 1975. Yet, at the same time, making major investments in real estate. I was still a child, so don't remember the reasoning behind this. Perhaps an expansion of the 'preaching work' due to the urgency of the 1975 date?
  
  Thanks, very interesting. xx
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  inquiring mind has 3 questions

  by OutsiderLookingIn in

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  just a few questions from a newbie.

  answer one or as many as you want.

  1. why cleaners?

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  1. Why cleaners? This isn't a class or status question. I don't look down on people for their occupation but I'm curious. I've read so many stories here that Jehovah's Witnesses are cleaners and the few I know are tidy. What's the history of that? The money is great, and you work off-hours, unless you choose to do private homes or restoration cleaning.

  
  

  2. What does 2/3 leave the religion really mean? It sounds very positive, but from my anecdotal experience and what I've read here, leaving doesn't mean they won't return or that even if they're inactive they are not still heavily indoctrinated. I believe that may be 2/3 of GenXers or even Y; many Boomers are just waking up to TTATT in their 50s, 60s. And yes, many who leave the cult physically remain prisoners in their minds, never losing the guilt and need to 'do better'.

  3. Non-JWs/never dubs: how many first learned what JWs actually believe or became interested in the business of JWs because a significant other or a romantic interest was a JW? On another thread, I mentioned that most of us mere worldlies don't know what it's really all about until it confronts us head on. I had some forewarning and still didn't understand how captive and damaging JWs could be. Born in, so N/A.

  
  

  
  

  Edit: Good point, Black Sheep....... glad to read that, have been wondering if you are doing ok. : )
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  Honestly, Did Jehovah's Witnesses Do Anything POSITIVE For You?

  by minimus in

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  i was raised as a witness and am very thankful that i am out.

  having said that, i think my upbringing produced positive qualities in me.

  do you believe that anything positive came from your being a witness?

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  Seriously....We have to start attacking this cult!!! Enough is enough!!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  i propose that we make pintrest accounts and start openly challenging this crap.. .

  seriously.... any suggestions?

  this crap cannot be left unchallenged.

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  I rarely post on my facebook about JW at all, but a couple of times a year, I will share a bit of crazy with my friends. This will be my first of 2016.
  
  My Xtian friends will most likely say WTF? And my fellow atheists will be laughing. Thanks, I needed to do something this week. Reading about another victim of this DEATH CULT, 25 years old! I can't take any more. I just can't. xx tal
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  new here but old

  by mattishere in

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  hi everyone, it's me, matthew hill.

  long time, about 6+ years........ .

  used to post as revmalk.

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  Hi! Chris hasn't been on in a long while, unless he has a new screen name.

  Good to see you, hope you are okay. xx tal
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  Computer Techies - Question

  by ShirleyW in

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  this laptop of mine will be a month old this week, i don't even know how many help desk calls i've made for certain things, but today, as the same thing happened just two weeks ago they ran the cleaner and malwarebytes and lord know what else.

  so every two weeks is this what i have to look forward with the new laptop?

  i know they say to be careful of the sites you go to, which are the same sites i went to on the old nine year old laptopthat runs the almost outdated vista, never had to call in just about every other week for that one, btw, it's windows 10 and mostly use firefox on the new one..

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  Even though they *say* Windows Defender works, it SUCKS. So get a better anti-virus (AVG is my choice, too).

  And what Cappy said - Chrome + AdBlocker will get rid of the ads. Some sites won't let you access, but you can decide to allow site-by-site if you choose.