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  Remember those stupid TESTS we would take at theocratic ministry school

  by dolphman in

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  remember those things, they'd hand out a board, a pencil, and this test booklet.

  i mean, i loved those nights!

  it actually gave me something to do.

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  Excuse me, but when I was School Overseer I always believed that everybody took it seriously, because I did. I know of other TSOs who carefully worked through it before they read the answers, just so they did not miss out

  Of course, it helped that we TSOs had the answer sheet!

  But, yes, I was one of those 'wonks' who studied in advance and almost always got a 100 (well, more like a 36, wasn't it?). In later years, my wife would spend the entire day before the meeting, researching the written review and writing out all the answers. At dinner time, the whole family would review the test and memorize all the true/false and other multiple choice parts. We were one family that would have been happy if all the completed 'tests' were put up on a wall display and left there for a week (looking back, I'm not sure my kids would agree).

  Apparently, my zeal was not universally shared by others. Blondie is right that the worst-attended meeting on the schedule was the night of the written review. And the reason? Guilt. Most people didn't have time to do the several hours of study required to do well on the test, and it was easier to stay home and watch TV than come to the KH and be made to feel inadequate and stupid. I realize that now. What ignorant fools we were to support this dysfunctional group for all those years!
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  News report on Sydney, Australia JW convention: all is well in JW-land?

  by Gopher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so glad this convention will "dispel myths" regarding the j-dubs, and that they won't baptize anyone too young, only 11-year-olds and up!!

  isn't it great?

  source: http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,8136304%255e953,00.html.

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  Does that mean that the WTS does not baptize anyone under 11?

  No, it simply means those are the best ages... too young/old to think for themselves.
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  The Ideal Next WTBTS President Should Be..

  by Englishman in

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  fidel castro?.

  george bush senior?.

  valis?.

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  Alan: What's scary is that, put to a secret vote at the local KH, this platform would actually get some votes!
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  Man, I miss the good old days!

  by Outaservice in

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  2. friends

  let's see now......... monday night: prepare for the tuesday night book study i will conduct.. tuesday night: drive over to an almost inactive brother's house to conduct the book study.

  prepared questions for the children ahead of time.

  the answer was always 'god's organization'!.

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  We added it up once and decided that if you did everything you were supposed to do, you put in 15-20 hours a week (including preparation and driving time), more if you were an elder or a pioneer. In other words, it's a second job. If you work two jobs for a long time and then quit the part-time one, what's left is a cakewalk. Guess that's why we're so happy (one reason, anyway) not to be doing it anymore.
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  I was a winner!!

  by morty in

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  2. friends

  i made our local news yesterday morning...to my surprise, i won the christmas give away, live on t.v.. i was so surprised..they drew my name and i had 10 mins to call in and answer their skill testing question.

  to win...i was a mess...the question was.....drum roll............................................................................ .............................................what is your phone number????

  ?..i could not believe it...after sweating it out and .

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  Morty, dammit, you missed a great oppty to "reverse witness" by not going on local television and sharing the delicious irony of an ex-dub winning a Christmas contest. There's been entirely too much slacking off around here when it comes to "taking every opportunity to witness to others." This trend towards sluggishness will be dealt with in Tuesday's Service Meeting, believe me!
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  The Ideal Next WTBTS President Should Be..

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  fidel castro?.

  george bush senior?.

  valis?.

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  Happy Man:

  1. Great platform!

  2. No, you have no chance.
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  Planning A Fade. Need Ideas

  by Doubtfully Yours in

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  2. experiences

  this double life is slowly eating away at me.

  i'm planning to fade away and need all the ideas i can get.. it needs to be a fade because my parents, who i care deeply about are heavily into it and my poor hubby is wanting to obtain more privileges in the cong.

  me, on the other hand, can't stand going to so many meetings and service and giving parts, etc.. very much appreciate your ideas and support.

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  What Mulan said, and the sooner the better.
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  A New View of the Trinity

  by Eugene Shubert in

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  for everyone's convenience, i've summarized my synthesis into a short number of postulates.

  please tell me which of my propositions are provably false and therefore biblically inadmissible.. the godhead is a heavenly trio of three living persons: the father, the son, and the holy spirit (matthew 28:19, 3:13-17, 2 corinthians 13:14, ephesians 4:4-6, 1 peter 1:2 and revelation 1:4,5).the father is all the fullness of the godhead bodily, and is invisible to mortal sight.the son is all the fullness of the godhead manifested (colossians 2:9 cf.

  john 1:1).

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  When you guys get through, here are some suggested agenda items for your next meeting:

  1. How many angels dance on the head of a pin?

  2. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
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  Are Elders Still "In"-----No Good?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  what's your opinion of elders that are still in the organization but are starting to realize that what they thought was the truth really isn't?

  let's say they know that the teachings, the prophecies, etc.

  are not true----but for various reasons, are still in----does this make you feel they are hypocrites?

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  some think they can work for change from the inside

  That was me, until I realized it wasn't working. Then I recalled the illustration I heard way back in an early talk, about how "trying to repair this old system was like painting the deck chairs on the Titanic." In retrospect, painting those chairs is a more honorable way to go than propping up this fake religion. But making the break is really tough, especially for those with lots of family "in." As someone already said, it's a process.
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  How much of the bible do JW's really use?

  by blindfool in

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  i've noticed over the last several weeks how often the same scriptures are used in meetings at the kingdom hall.. anytime galatians is mentioned you can just about be sure you are going to look up chapter 5 ver.

  19.. 2 timothy is going to be 3: 16. i can't remember considering any addional text to get the context of the verse, just reading the same verses over and over.

  i'm sure most of you can name lots more scriptures used by jw's.. i think i'm going to start taking notes at meetings and listing which verses are used, then i can look from week to week and see how often the same old verses are considered.

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  willyloman

  All these comments are right on target. I spent 30 years in this club, going to every meeting, reading all the assigned material, looking up all the cited scriptures, and I don't know much more about the bible than I did 29 years ago. It's a year of intensive "study" of selected material and then rehash and recap.