She's not a Troll.. I have had a lengthy PM Dialogue with her, since her initial post.. She is sincere. She thought this was a JW Site. Abd she was bewildered by the Responses she has received.
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New to The Jehovahs Witness Faith and need some help
by jnjburkett inhello there i am new to the faith and have been studying for about a month.
i am very excited and hungry for the truth and have not missed a meeting or study since the memorial.
we do about 2 bible studies a week.
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I finally Found it Again! The Worst Quote in WT History.
by objectivetruth in*** w55 7/15 p. 436 war from heaven brings peace to earth ***.
men can spray a field with chemicals that kill weeds but spare crops; too bad they cannot spray cities with bombs that blow the bad to bits but leave the innocent intact..
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New to The Jehovahs Witness Faith and need some help
by jnjburkett inhello there i am new to the faith and have been studying for about a month.
i am very excited and hungry for the truth and have not missed a meeting or study since the memorial.
we do about 2 bible studies a week.
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a watcher - Great Advice!
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New to The Jehovahs Witness Faith and need some help
by jnjburkett inhello there i am new to the faith and have been studying for about a month.
i am very excited and hungry for the truth and have not missed a meeting or study since the memorial.
we do about 2 bible studies a week.
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Jnjburkett - Congratulations on beginning your journey to the Truth. It's good that you are so hungry for truth.. Jehovah is a god that satisfies the Spiritual Hunger of everyone Psalm 107:9 "For he has satisfied the thirsty And filled the hungry with good things."
You ask, a really good question.. I cannot answer it from personal experience, but I'll try and answer it from the scriptures..
We have in Jesus Christ the perfect example, of how we are to walk, and conduct our selves..
Jesus is the same one that said John 18:36 "36 Jesus answered: “My Kingdom is no part of this world. If my Kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my Kingdom is not from this source.”
and Matthew 26:52 "52 Then Jesus said to him: “Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword."
It is clear by Jesus words & actions that he condemned War Fare, and none of his followers should partake in any sort of Wars or have any Political affiliations...
Jesus also said... Mark 12:31 "The second is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” 32 The scribe said to him: “Teacher, you spoke well, in line with truth, ‘He is One, and there is no other besides him’;
When bible principles seem to contradict themselves.. If you follow the two greatest commandments, all else will fall into place.
In your situation, love should overrule any other principle..
Matthew 6:5-10 "When he entered Ca·per′na·um, an army officer came to him, pleading with him 6 and saying: “Sir, my servant is laid up in the house with paralysis, and he is suffering terribly.” 7 He said to him: “When I get there, I will cure him.” 8 The army officer replied: “Sir, I am not worthy to have you come under my roof, but just say the word and my servant will be healed.9 For I too am a man under authority, having soldiers under me, and I say to this one, ‘Go!’ and he goes, and to another, ‘Come!’ and he comes, and to my slave, ‘Do this!’ and he does it.” 10 When Jesus heard that, he was amazed and said to those following him: “I tell you the truth, with no one in Israel have I found so great a faith."
13 Then Jesus said to the army officer: “Go. Just as you have shown faith, so let it come to pass for you.” And the servant was healed in that hour.
Notice here.. Jesus did not say "First resign from your position, as army officer, and then I will help you".. No Jesus read the Army officers heart, and he judged that the Army Officer had.. Great Faith!
What individuals do without proper understanding of Gods Standards cannot be counted against them.. Take as another example, Paul. He was engaging in Spiritual Warfare, Persecuting & Killing Christians.. Despite this, Jesus saw that he had strong Faith, and Jesus corrected his path and blessed him.
You do not need condemn any of your family members, because of their careers in the military.. You can only show love, and serve. God to the best of your Ability. Love destroys all, and they may be moved by your love, to no longer live by the sword as well.
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What is spirit, exactly?
by Viviane ini've always wondered that.
recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.
cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?
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If you're referring to "Holy Spirit" You will know that you have it when your Heart of Stone, turns to a Heart of Flesh,and you see Beauty & Love everywhere you look..
Ezekiel 36:26 " And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh."
Praise Yahweh.
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Responding to The 4 Most Common Statements made by JW's - "The Truth"
by objectivetruth inwhen we speak with jw friends & family, they often default to a few common expressions or questions :.
"who else is preaching the good news, in all the inhabited earth?
"do not forsake meeting together.
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This is an great "brochure" that a brother in the Early 1900's Created : http://wtarchive.svhelden.info/archive/en/publications/1905_JB_Features_of_the_Plan_of_God.pdf
Here is another Brochure. From 1900 WTBTS, that Condemns Religions (Calling them Blasphemous) that teach that %99.9 of Humans Will be Anihhilated at Armageddon, (As the Current Witnesses do) http://wtarchive.svhelden.info/archive/en/publications/1900_XX_Which_is_the_True_Gospel.pdf
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Responding to The 4 Most Common Statements made by JW's - "The Truth"
by objectivetruth inwhen we speak with jw friends & family, they often default to a few common expressions or questions :.
"who else is preaching the good news, in all the inhabited earth?
"do not forsake meeting together.
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Alpha - I agree that this is long, it is intended to provide scriptural references, that can be used to Defend Ones Faith, regarding the True Good News. 1 Peter 3:15
The True Gospel, is very simple, and it radiates Supreme Love & Righteousness.. However the problem is that Men and their religions complicate things..
The entire Gospel can be summed up with one scripture : This is why we work hard and continue to struggle, for our hope is in the living God, who is the Savior of all people and particularly of all believers. (1 Timothy 4:10)
Stillin - Put your self in the shoes of the Man that Jesus spoke to in Matthew 19:16 " Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?”
Jesus Response
To Gain Everlasting Life :
“You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, 19 Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
To Gain Immortality :
“If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
Matthew 6:20 " Store your treasures in heaven, where moths and rust cannot destroy, and thieves do not break in and steal."
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TTATT in a Can... finally finished!!
by ILoveTTATT inok so... how to condense all the flip-flops and doctrinal changes, and show graphically how the different doctrines changed, and when?.
ttatt in a can!!.
enjoy ;).
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Very Nice Work! Impressive.. I'm working on Doctrinal changes (Sheep/Goats,Jeremiah 25:33,Wheat & Weeds) I'll use your template for sure!
Rebuking the Apostate Teachings of the WT (and other false religions) is encouraged in Titus
Titus 1:9 "He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it." Titus 1:10 "For there are many who are insubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision party." Titus 1:11 "They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach
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Responding to The 4 Most Common Statements made by JW's - "The Truth"
by objectivetruth inwhen we speak with jw friends & family, they often default to a few common expressions or questions :.
"who else is preaching the good news, in all the inhabited earth?
"do not forsake meeting together.
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When we speak with JW friends & family, they often default to a few common expressions or questions :
1. "Who else is preaching the Good News, in all the Inhabited Earth? (Matthew 24:14) "
2. "Do not forsake Meeting Together. (Hebrews 10:25)"
3. "Wait on Jehovah - Usually accompanied by an insinuation that you are Haughty"
4. "The Light Gets Brighter"
Below are a few Key Scriptural Replies that overthrow all 4 Of these Statements -
1. As Galatians 1:8,9 & Romans 16:17 Bring Out..If ANYONE preaches a Good News that is different then the Good News that Jesus Taught, we should keep away from them. The fact that witnesses teach a unscriptural Good News voids their claim that they are fulfilling Matthew 24:14. Titus 1:11 even says that they should be Silenced!
2. Romans 16:17 tells us to Avoid Everyone that teaches a Doctrine Contrary to what is found in the Bible.. There only need to be 2 individuals in order to satisfy the advice at Hebrews 10:25 - ( Matthew 18:20 " For where two or three gather together as my followers, I am there among them.")
3. 2 John 1:9-11 tells us that Even if we invite some one that teaches a false Good News into our house, we are partaking in their Wicked Works.. How can we "wait on Jehovah", while placing our seal of approval on Apostate Teachings? He that teaches a false good news, is actually the Haughty One according to 1 Timothy 6:3,5 " he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing".
4. The Ligt does not Get Brighter as it Relates to the Good News, and the Value of Jesus ransom sacrifice.. As 1 John 1:9 shows, if anyone does not Remain Teaching the Truth about the Good News, he does not have Jehovah!
One other less common reply is "Where else can we go? (John 6:68)
First point out, that the question was "whom" not "where" and then you can quote 2 Scriptures :
John 14:6 " Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
John 10:9 " I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture."
The Watchtower Organization isn't "The Ark" - Jesus is.. Acts 4:12 " There is salvation in no one else! God has given no other name under heaven by which we must be saved."
Below are Some Helpful Scriptures to show your Loving Cult Controlled Friends or Family Member, that the JW Religion is False Religion, just like all other Organized Religion.
Galatians 1:8 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed."
Galatians 1:9 "As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."
Romans 16:17 "I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.
2 Thessalonians 3:6 "In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers and sisters, to keep away from every believer who is idle and disruptive and does not live according to the teaching you received from us."
- 1 Timothy 5:13 "Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also busybodies who talk nonsense, saying things they ought not to."
1 Timothy 1:3 "As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer"
1 Timothy 6:3-5 " If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound b words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, 4he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, 5and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain."
2 John 1:9-11 "9Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, 11for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.."
Titus 3:10 "Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them."
Titus 1:9 "He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it."
Titus 1:10 "For there are many who are insubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision party."
Titus 1:11 "They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach."
3 John 1:10 So when I come, I will call attention to what he is doing, spreading malicious nonsense about us. Not satisfied with that, he even refuses to welcome other believers. He also stops those who want to do so and puts them out of the church.
Acts 15:1 "But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.”
- Watchtower 2012 3/15 "The other sheep should never forget that their salvation depends on their active support of Christ’s anointed “brothers” still on earth.
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1 Corinthians 15:22 "For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive."
Romans 5:12-17 " 12Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men e because all sinned— 13for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law.14Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come. 15But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man’s trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. 16And the free gift is not like the result of that one man’s sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. 17For if, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.
Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
John 3:16 "“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life."
John 3:17 "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."
1 Timothy 4:10 "For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe."
- 1 Timothy 2:4 "who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."
John 12:47 "If anyone hears my words and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world.
John 12:48 "The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day."
2 Peter 3:8 "But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."
Hebrews 2:9 "But we see him who for a little while was made lower than the angels, namely Jesus, crowned with glory and honor because of the suffering of death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone."
John 3:7 "Do not be amazed that I said to you, 'You must be born again."
John 6:53 "So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
1 John 4:15 "If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God."
Hebrews 10:26 "For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,"
Numbers 15:30 ""'But anyone who sins defiantly, whether native-born or foreigner, blasphemes the LORD and must be cut off from the people of Israel."
Hebrews 6:4 "It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit," Hebrews 6:6 "and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace."
1 Peter 2:20 "If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning."
2 Peter 2:21 "It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them." 1 John 5:16 "If you see any brother or sister commit a sin that does not lead to death, you should pray and God will give them life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that you should pray about that.
Matthew 19:16-19 " 16And behold, a man came up to him, saying, “Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?” 17And he said to him,“Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments.” 18He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, 19Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
John 5:28-29 " Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice 29and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment."
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P.S. - Revelation 7:9 " After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands,"
If the Great Crowd cannot be numbered, how can the Exact Number be in The Watchtower's Year Book every Year??
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When we die...
by Finallyfree12 indo you beleive our spirit lives on in other dimensions or are we really just dead?
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I believe that, there are 2 Fates that await us.
1. Anointed Individuals (Not only 144,000 - Available to anyone that accepts God's Call Matthew 22:14) These are transformed instantly and their spiritual "soul" is transported to Heaven / The Garden of Eden.
2. For Non Anointed Individuals, they are asleep in Death and all will be Resurrected on the Last Day. (This includes Every Human that has ever had a HeartBeat, from Cai. To the Last Person to Live) The only exception is an anointed individual that Sins against the Holy Spirit Hebrews 10:26-29
I believe that during the 1,000 Year Reign, Jesus and the Annointed will be with those that are Resurrected on the Earth. They will have the same body type "essence" that Jesus had when he returned after his Death.
Regardless of what Faith An Individual Holds to (Christian,Judaism,Islam) this is the Belief generally.