Maybe they do not consider themselves to be "uppity," and conclude that you are talking to someone else.
Maybe they concede your point and agree with it...if it is true.
i posted this on another thread but i know it got buried....i thought it was an important that the jw's on this board hear this.. do you think that bill or any silentlamb would have to resort to such public measures if the wtbts had listened in the first place.
think about it...these people are putting a lot on the line...do you think they would be going to such lengths to be heard if the wtbts had responded to there more "discreat" pleas for help?
you are only seeing the tip of the iceburg...they have been trying to get the wtbs to not just hear them but listen to them for years.
Maybe they do not consider themselves to be "uppity," and conclude that you are talking to someone else.
Maybe they concede your point and agree with it...if it is true.
think there will be any announcements on sunday encouraging people not to watch any worldly news programs about jw's?????
hinting that some apostates & df'd ones are featured?
i'll be interested in hearing.. they'll probably try to tie in how this must be the beginning of the end - the governments picking on jw's & it must be like touching jehovah's eyeball.
No. You underestimate the intelligence of those who can recognize an agenda when we see it. Why should we accept your "spin" instead of our own?
If there is any good to come from this, we welcome it. Otherwise, your hubris and backslapping are presently unjustified. Your war hasn't been won yet.
only three more days to go folks before the fit hits the shan!.
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There's enough salivating going on here to fill the Atlantic Ocean. It's transparent that it's not the children who are your main concern, but zinging the WTS.
However, I wouldn't spend the money from this expected windfall yet. I have a feeling that it will not turn out as you hope.
governing body welcomes new members .
friday, may 17, 2:34pm et.
brooklyn heights, ny (ap) - the governing body of the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses (formerly the watchtower bible and tract society of new york) named four new members to their ranks yesterday according to a press release.
Showing his signature sense of humor when asked during a phone interview Monday how he liked joining the reclusive group, Samuel "Bling Bling" Herd just wanted to know "where da bitches at?"
That is racist stereotyping at its worst. All hail to your enlightened egalitarianism. Not!
the following, from the watchtower magazine of january 1, 1997, does not support the idea that the wts is a "pedophile's paradise.
" the wts also pointedly spoke out against pedophilia over 9 years ago in the awake!
magazine of october 8, 1993. for the protection of our children, a man known to have been a child molester does not qualify for a responsible position in the congregation.
The following, from the Watchtower magazine of January 1, 1997, does not support the idea that the WTS is a "pedophile's paradise." The WTS also pointedly spoke out against pedophilia over 9 years ago in the Awake! magazine of October 8, 1993.
For the protection of our children, a man known to have been a child molester does not qualify for a responsible position in the congregation. Moreover, he cannot be a pioneer or serve in any other special, full-time service.—Compare the principle at Exodus 21:28, 29....If, for example, an individual makes immoral advances to another adult, the adult should be able to resist his or her advances. Children are much easier to deceive, confuse, or terrorize. The Bible speaks of a child’s lack of wisdom. (Proverbs 22:15; 1 Corinthians 13:11) Jesus used children as an example of humble innocence. (Matthew 18:4; Luke 18:16, 17) The innocence of a child includes a complete lack of experience. Most children are open, eager to please, and thus vulnerable to abuse by a scheming adult whom they know and trust. Therefore, the congregation has a responsibility before Jehovah to protect its children.
Well-trained children learn to obey and honor their parents, the elders, and other adults. (Ephesians 6:1, 2; 1 Timothy 5:1, 2; Hebrews 13:7) It would be a shocking perversion if one of these authority figures were to misuse that child’s innocent trust so as to seduce or force him or her to submit to sexual acts. Those who have been sexually molested in this way often struggle for years to overcome the resulting emotional trauma. Hence, a child molester is subject to severe congregational discipline and restrictions.
Whereas the present WTS policy may be in need of updating and upgrading, it is simply not true that the WTS has at any time advocated the protection of pedophiles.
despite centuries of analysis from religion and philosophy,.
life largely remains a mystery.
however, one truth stands out.
Metatron, I guess you have found these sick, debilitated, frustrated, miserable, suicidal people somewhere, but I have to say that I don't know any of them.
Now as for happy people that have good, professional jobs, drive the latest fine cars, and wear fabulous clothes, you can find many of them any Sunday as members of our local KH.
we are the decisions we make.
we are thrown into the world and left to make of it what we will.
non trias thinks there is some truth to these observations.. god has allowed us to see the light of life so that we might make of it what we will.
Way to go, non_trias_theos!
As usual, those who cannot refute your logic (or even understand it) are resorting to name-calling, ad-hominem attacks, and sheer nonsense. Maybe they are impressed by such juvenile antics. I am not. You are right in much of what you are saying. They cannot take their personal experiences and personal failings and extrapolate that to six million other persons. They can only speak for themselves.
Many people are Witnesses for no other reason than that they want to be, and enjoy it. That's their reality.
here's what i'm hearing:.
the dateline show is beating a dead horse brought up by malcontents.. it brings up a dead issue because the society is sending out.
letters in child abuse cases to go to the police - in individual.
Or the general feeling may be similar to what George Coyne, a Jesuit priest and the director of the Vatican Observatory, says about the Catholics' pedophilia problem:
The whole mentality of the Catholic Church has been secrecy and coverup, and that's where the problem is. The church has a tendency of not wanting to admit mistakes. It's the church I love, but it's a human church, too. I have no expertise in modern culture, but as one priest in the church, my evaluation is that secrecy never pays off in the long run. It will catch up with you.
There does not appear to be a big exodus from the Catholic Church over this issue, though it has produced revulsion and discontent, anger and in some instances, attempted murder and suicides. What has been produced is continuing reform.
what happens the morning after dateline?
how will most jws react?
these are my thoughts on the matter, which, of course, are open to debate:.
Rather than resorting to the lame name-calling and demonizing of those who disagree with you, why not just wait and see?
And why does anyone think that all JWs will react in the same way? I think many of you are starting to believe your own propaganda and are marching in lockstep with your own attempted thought control. In short, you are exhibiting the very same phenomena that you rail against.
What did Gamaliel say? "If this work is of men, it will fail. But if not...."
it seems that there is much anger on this place.
in my country we do not understand the manifestation of hostility manifested on a public board.
if some of these people do not calm down, they might be next terrorists in news.
In the last six months, 9 Jehovah's Witness children have met their deaths by murder. At the hands of their primary caregivers.
You got verification for that, or are we just supposed to believe it because you said it?
Hello, Mystikool. Greetings from one mystic (Master Adept) to another.