i did my own extensive research as i was getting out, and by exploring actual changes and mentions of core doctrine, i learned how it came about that the gb teach that only they know the truth and only they get holy spirit.
i was checking if jwfacts had it, and although they mention many older articles, it seems they didn't realize they taught there was no holy spirit.
this was a real big eye opener for me, so thought i'd share it, and curious if any of you knew about this yourselves????.
Because when Jesus was with his apostles they didn't have it, but when Jesus left, he told them he would send the teacher, the holy spirit. So since Jesus is back, there is no holy spirit anymore
Thats a Valid point
However the whole argument of this is Just hypothetical, similar to :
Santa clause brings Christmas cheer in the month of December. After Christmas, Santa leaves his spirit for the people, so that they can cheer up, all until next december.
i had two episodes of visiting exjw websites:one time around 2007 when i just googled "jehovah´s witnesses" and dared to look at those sites.
i was scared and i promised myself i would never come back to them.
however, that one didn´t really count.the moment that woke me up was this:i got to know that whitney heichel was a jw and murdered by another jw, because i overheard that conversation in a kingdom hall.i looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exjw was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a jw... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which i did.and the rest... is history.what exactly got you onto an apostate website when you woke up?
During 2002, the Silent Lambs Organization took up the Issue of child abuse and this was very much publicized on the media.
At that time during the TMS meeting, we were advised not to read any apostate material or visit any apostate sites. I was new to the internet at that time and really didn’t know how to search for apostate sites. Hence I wondered “what the heck do those apostate sites mean”?
During 2008 a JW friend of mine raised serious doubts about the 607 BCE. I searched for that in Youtube and had an apostate give an elaborate explanation about how WT had twisted that.
By then, google was much used to me and immediately I searched for “Jehovahs Witnesses”. A bunch of apostate sites came up. However the first few ones were Jwfacts.com and http://ajwrb.org.
Jwfacts.com was the site that exposed the cult wholly and its my Saviour too. Otherwise I would still be wasting my life for the cult.
according to jw teaching, babylon the great is the name for all other religions except themselves and predicted its influence over governments would wane in the last days.
yet we find just opposite happening!.
we saw russian government acting against jws, we saw president trump’s swearing in ceremony where church official had central stage ….etc.. here is another sample!
Very true, at least in India
Every year, the Pilgrims to the Hindu temples grow exponentially. The same is true with the Pentecostal and protestant churches. Pentecostal pastors get rich very soon, within a few years after starting a local group.
While i was a JW, I used to wonder how this can be.
in today's wt study, 9th sept 2018, para 14. we learnt that jesus mother, mary, is one of the 144.000 anointed at penticost.
just another classic, we know more than what is contained in scripture..
The title of this thread as well as many people commenting here are concerned that WT is going beyond what is written in the Bible.
Do they still beleive that the Bible is the (only) word of a (True) god, written down for man’s betterment and that WT is going beyond what is written ?
in today's wt study, 9th sept 2018, para 14. we learnt that jesus mother, mary, is one of the 144.000 anointed at penticost.
just another classic, we know more than what is contained in scripture..
If Holy Mary is part of 144K, then why she didnt attend the Lord's evening meal.
Am I missing anything here ? Please someone explain. My life is at stake.
sept 2018. https://vimeo.com/288327363.
Is insurance provided for the GB members.
Where do they if they get sick. Do they heal themselves with prayer and careful consideration ?
https://www.snopes.com/ap/2018/09/06/amway-founder-magic-owner-richard-devos-dies-age-92/.
i've heard people say amway was a little culty for a business, and reminded them of jws in some ways.
i'm not familiar with amway myself, can anybody here elaborate?.
And when they do (Memorial), you can't eat it!
https://www.snopes.com/ap/2018/09/06/amway-founder-magic-owner-richard-devos-dies-age-92/.
i've heard people say amway was a little culty for a business, and reminded them of jws in some ways.
i'm not familiar with amway myself, can anybody here elaborate?.
I I was dragged into an Amway meeting once. A friend of mine was in Amway. He invited me just to attend a business meeting and said that I need not get involved if I am not interested.
He drove me in his car. Amazingly on the way, he listened to Amway Audio tapes on his car stereo, which was all about motivating, spreading and marketing the Amway products.
When I was at the meeting place, the same Love bombs happened, as in a JW meeting. People seemed to be so genuinely interested in my earnings and boosted me that I can earn a lot.
Same confessions from the Podium like… I achieved this, I became rich, Amway is good and so on. Finally a pot luck dinner was served. All this happened when I was a JW. It still didn’t strike me that my religion too is a cult like Amway.
Perhaps I didn’t realize the modus Operandi of cults back then
i need the advice of those of you who are exjw's on what to do about my still in mother.
briefly, here's the situation: i am a born-in, never got baptised (thank the fsm), became an athiest about 2015 but haven't come out to anyone but my wife and some trusted friends.
my mother was raised in the society and is a true believer, but was never as strict about it as some parents are when i was growing up.
My mom and wife are still JW. My mom lives seperately and I got myself disassociated in a far away congregation. So far, the relationship with my mom and wife is as usual, except sometimes I start an argument with my wife to make her think
My mom is too old to make her realize TTATT. Hence I dont open any Bibilical Issues with her. I dont react for any of her WT activities. Just getting along with her and doing all I can for her as her son.
Had my mom been in the same congregation where I got disassociated, the elders would have poisoned her mind.
My advice is, Just maintain your relationship with your mom and make the best out of it. Its totally impossible to make an old woman realize that they are in a cult.
jesus version of forgiveness.
https://youtu.be/6snr5zjfngg.
jehovah's witness version of forgiveness.
WT version of forgivenss: Abide by WT rules and you will be forgiven.;
Even though Jesus fogave those who nailed him, he was intolerant on certain other occasions especially: How do christians Justify this. Sorry, Jesus is off my good book, long before.
Luke 19: 27.And these enemies of mine who were unwilling for me to rule over them, bring them here and slay them in front of me.’” 28. After Jesus had said this, He went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem.…
