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  WTS and "Leaning"

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jt in one of his many classic posts pointed out that a common expression in bethel whenever a new publication would come out would be "which way is the society leaning in this article?

  " this was also heard at the kingdom halls i attended.

  i'm sure it is still heard today in dubland.. one has to wonder why the only true organization chosen by the king jesus christ himself would have to "lean" at all.

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  Trying to make sense of the bible gives me a headache. Figuring how how stupid witness beliefs are in they're simplest form makes me giggle.
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  So What The Hell Are You?

  by shamus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to dubdom, what are you?

  i am a lame weakass lamb who goes on apostate websites who faded.

  in the real world i am free from mind control.

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  According to dubdom, what are you?

  Are you 'weak'? Are you 'faded'? Are you 'disfellowshipped'? Are you 'disassosiated'?

  What are you?

  I am a lame weakass lamb who goes on apostate websites who faded. In the real world I am free from mind control.

  What do the dubs consider you these days? I know that it varies from year to year... one day faded, the next disassosiated....
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  Moscow's final ban on Jehovah's Witnesses!

  by Joker10 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  moscow upholds ban on jehovah's witnesses

  by maria danilova.

  associated press writer leader of russian jehovah's witnesses, vasily kalin, right, jehovah's witnesses' canadian lawyer john burns, center, and spokesman for the jehovah's witnesses christian presber, stand in front of the moscow city court, wednesday, june 16, 2004. a moscow court upheld a ban on the city's jehovah's witnesses, ending a six-year case that reflected growing pressure to stifle minority religious groups in russia, where orthodox christianity is predominant.

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  Moscow's final ban on Jehovah's Witnesses!

  by Joker10 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  moscow upholds ban on jehovah's witnesses

  by maria danilova.

  associated press writer leader of russian jehovah's witnesses, vasily kalin, right, jehovah's witnesses' canadian lawyer john burns, center, and spokesman for the jehovah's witnesses christian presber, stand in front of the moscow city court, wednesday, june 16, 2004. a moscow court upheld a ban on the city's jehovah's witnesses, ending a six-year case that reflected growing pressure to stifle minority religious groups in russia, where orthodox christianity is predominant.

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  See what happens when you have extreme ideas?

  I'm not happy about it. I'm delighted.
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  The Watchtower guilt machine is indeed a powerful tool

  by Nocturne in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i haven't posted as much here as i've wanted these past few weeks, but i've spent most of my time lurking here, or in chat.

  for the last few 2 months roughly, every meeting i attended became extremely painful to endure, such that i would come up with excuses to miss as many as possible.

  but there are 2 events that really gave me a swift kick to wake me up and realize that things had to change.

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  Remember: Don't feed the trolls. If you want to feed them why don't you PM them? You can argue in private.

  Yes, they love they're guilt, don't they? The whole organization is about guilt.

  Serve jehovah.

  You owe it to him.

  You're letting your family down.

  Utter nonsense. Stay in and feel guilty or find freedom, sanity, and truth. I think I'll take freedom. Sorry that it has to come as a price.
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  According to the bible.....what were birds made of?

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the bible, man was made from the ground.....the dirt.. do you know what "fowls" were made from?

  take your pick.. from the waters.gen.1:20-21"and god said, let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

  and god created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and god saw that it was good.

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  What do they do for fun after the 'angel' leaves? Walk around the efin' woods all day????

  Adam: "Duh, wow... there's another animal."

  Eve: "Yes, it is beautiful. I shall call it a Sloth..."

  Whoopityfreakin' doo dah!
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  According to the bible.....what were birds made of?

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the bible, man was made from the ground.....the dirt.. do you know what "fowls" were made from?

  take your pick.. from the waters.gen.1:20-21"and god said, let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

  and god created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and god saw that it was good.

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  Good god, if that's paradise I'd rather be dead. Worms eating my head.
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  According to the bible.....what were birds made of?

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the bible, man was made from the ground.....the dirt.. do you know what "fowls" were made from?

  take your pick.. from the waters.gen.1:20-21"and god said, let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

  and god created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and god saw that it was good.

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  Hilarious Gumby.... I think you've been smokin a little somethin', LOL!
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  Moscow Rule on JW Ban for this Wednesday

  by Gerard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  [...] moscow city prosecutors have been trying to shut down the church for nearly six years, charging that the witnesses are subversive foreign cultists intent on breaking up russian families, endangering children and inciting religious discord.

  a ruling on a final appeal of the case is due wednesday [...]

  http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/world/8921517.htm?1c

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  Hey Gerard,

  Your link is broken. I really would like to read the article in full.
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  Are you afraid?

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  fear not:

  1st john 4:18: there is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment.

  but he who fears has not been made perfect in love.. 2nd timothy 1:7: for god has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.

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  Either I'm stoned or this sounds like circular reasoning... what is "love"? What kind of love? Sexual, Agape, Relationship....

  It sounds like an old wisetale to me, written by crazy old men.

  You need to prove the bible is real before you can believe in that stuff. I still do not believe in the bible. Yeah, there's some good side stories in there, but lots of weird nonsense like blathering about unclean women having periods, or pages upon pages of nonsense of some family tree.

  I am sorry that we disagree.... and I'm not trying to attack you, at least I hope I'm not.

  Derek