"sure, honey, that dress looks fine.
why he tells it: hassle avoidance.
men employ these "forgivable fibs" not just to avoid hurting you ("of course you don't look fat in that outfit") but to make their lives easier ("i think that wallpaper looks great") and to steer clear of trouble ("i guess cindy crawford's 'sexy' in a conventional kind of way, but she's not my cup of tea").. it's not that your man doesn't care what you wear or what the living room looks like -- he does.
I'm married to the above quoted man.
So am I. So are most of the women I know. We're getting packed and ready to move and I'm about ready to kill him. He actually went and got a second storage locker for the stuff I refused to take (some of it, quite literally, trash that he refused to throw away..."I can use that kleenex box!"). If I would let him, he would literally be one of those people who piles trash and old newspapers around the house until there are only tiny pathways through the room.
how fascinating...especially in light of the jw claim that jews considered birthdays "pagan"...an ultra-orthodox (chassidic) website that talks about the importance of jewish birthdays...gee, maybe the wt is wrong.... http://www.chabad.org/calendar/birthday.asp.
what is a jewish birthday?
one's jewish birthday is, of course, the date upon which one was born according to the jewish calendar.
hmm...can anybody tell me why the only place I can ever find any of the topics I have posted, is under my profile? (not in the forum they were supposed to be posted in?)
"sure, honey, that dress looks fine.
why he tells it: hassle avoidance.
men employ these "forgivable fibs" not just to avoid hurting you ("of course you don't look fat in that outfit") but to make their lives easier ("i think that wallpaper looks great") and to steer clear of trouble ("i guess cindy crawford's 'sexy' in a conventional kind of way, but she's not my cup of tea").. it's not that your man doesn't care what you wear or what the living room looks like -- he does.
But you see, you're not supposed to expose us like that! Got it???
Oh as if we didn't know already. You guys aren't fooling us. We just let you think you are.
The biggest lie you guys tell, is the one you tell yourselves (it doesn't fool us either):
"No! That's still good! Don't throw it away! It does not belong in the trash!!"
how fascinating...especially in light of the jw claim that jews considered birthdays "pagan"...an ultra-orthodox (chassidic) website that talks about the importance of jewish birthdays...gee, maybe the wt is wrong.... http://www.chabad.org/calendar/birthday.asp.
what is a jewish birthday?
one's jewish birthday is, of course, the date upon which one was born according to the jewish calendar.
How fascinating...especially in light of the JW claim that Jews considered birthdays "pagan"...an ultra-Orthodox (Chassidic) website that talks about the importance of Jewish birthdays...gee, maybe the WT is wrong...
http://www.chabad.org/calendar/birthday.asp
What is a Jewish Birthday?
One's Jewish birthday is, of course, the date upon which one was born according to the Jewish calendar.
Far from considering it incidental, Jewish tradition regards one's Jewish birthday to be fraught with meaning and relevance and, in some ways, even a mini-Rosh Hashanah!
The Talmud informs us that on our Jewish birthdays our mazel (good fortune) is dominant.
The Jewish birthday is the perfect day for reflection about our lives as Jews and is an auspicious time to make new resolutions to perform good deeds and to deepen our commitment to Torah and the role it plays in our lives.
On one's Jewish birthday it is customary to get together with family and friends to celebrate Jewishly. At the celebration one should say a prayer of thanks to G-d, give money to charity, and learn some Torah.
as larc's thread has mutated into the tired old nurture vs nature debate i thought i'd give a response to his question, which was how do you reconcile the bibles attittude to homosexuality and the living breathing reality of human beings.
i was at a recent screening of trembling before g-d, a documentary on homosexuals in the orthodox community who want to be practising homosexuals and still be accepted as part of the orthodox faith.
(my opinion is that they're wanting to have their cake and eat it but i was interested in the reasoning).
I spent a couple of years as the goyisha secretary of an ultra-Orthodox (Chassid) synagogue. It is my understanding that, your "sexual orientation" wouldn't enter into how you lived your life (I'm pretty sure the idea would have been totally foreign to them). A good Jewish boy or girl is supposed to get married and have as many children as physically possible (at last count, the rabbi and his wife had 11, and she's younger than me so they're not finished). Your personal feelings and inclinations don't really enter into it...it is your duty as a Jew to fulfill all 613 mitzvahs (commandments).
It was an incredibly interesting experience, and everyone I met were very dear people, but I'm telling you, I grew up among some judgemental xenophobic people, and the JWs are judgemental and xenophobic...but they don't hold a candle to the reactions of the Chassidim towards those who thought or acted differently than they had been raised to think and act (the rabbi's kids thought I was pretty much a zoo exhibit).
in light of the recent threads on homosexuality, if you were gay would you let anyone on this site know?
would you feel supported as a gay exjw or would you feel ridiculed?
would you feel safe here?
In keeping with my general attitude about posting on the internet, which is: "I don't really know any of you people and I don't have to spend any time at all associating with you unless it's enjoyable and I want to, and it's not worth my effort to try to 'hide' things you might not like, and why should I lose 10 second's sleep sitting up worrying about what you all think of me anyway, because what the h*ll to I care???"
I'd almost certainly be "out" on the board.
Hell, I've told you I had been to nudist gatherings and coven meetings , what's a non-issue like homosexuality??
.... those meetings are soooooooo boring.
and don't get me started on the 3 days of hell i just spent at the district convention.
(actually, if there isn't really a "hell", then it was 3 days of "non-existence") ok, ok, i get it.... as a witness, i should "give god glory", and make sure everything i do is being done in the glory of god.... but i don't need 3 days to get that point across.
Those who became witnesses at adulthood I think can emotionally seperate themselves from it all and leave easier without all the "baggage."
I'm not so sure about that. I, and other people who became JWs as adults, have to contend with:
1. feelings of "Oh, God! How stupid was I??" and almost total lack of faith in our own judgement now
2. friends and family saying "I told you so" (especially family)
3. family throwing your years as a JW in your face the rest of your life, as evidence you don't make good decisions, every time you plan on doing something they disapprove of
cavemen evolve into homosapiens over a span of 3,500,000 years.. how is it that this statement is stated as fact?
if it is proven as fact,then is the genesis account of creation false?.
in order to believe it must one believe in evolution?.
You're right of course... I don't know what I was thinking. I will go sit in a corner.
All right, now, don't make me feel like a bigger b*tch than I usually do I always speak up because
a) I'm a nitpicker by nature
b) I would rather people correct me than I go blithely about my business using the wrong word
(And I really do have to look up the terminology myself, to make sure I have it right - it's not the easiest thing to remember)
nothing much new herein: the society announces that they have laid the foundation for the buildings which.
will house their printing facilities at wallkill.
it will cost $60 million and be completed around march 04.. all their printing is scheduled to be moved out of brooklyn.
I remember when they announced plans for Patterson, saying they planned to be putting the finishing touches on it 'in the new system.'
first of all, let me say that many, if not most, of my memories of abuse and early childhood were recovered.
some people feel that this diminishes my experience, or in some way denies what happened.
i suffered from major depression and was quite suicidal for 2 years before something happened to trigger my memories.
Tex, how awful that a small child should be put through that by the people who should protect him with their lives. How wonderful that you have become such a good man in spite of it.
I think most people, at least in a detached way, know that there are monsters out there. What they find hard to believe, and what is truly terrifying, is that people can't always tell who the monsters are.
For instance, when confronted with the possibility that someone the person knows and likes, perhaps a family member or a friend, has done such horrendous things, a person must conclude one of two things:
1. You can't trust your judgment - This horribly sociopathic monster had you fooled. (this is a bad feeling)
2. The monster wasn't all bad. The person who could sexually torture a child could be a fun fishin' buddy, or a good employee. I think that's the scariest possibility. That a person who could do such bad things might have good qualities too (not all do, of course!). You hear over and over, especially in small towns, that people just 'can't believe' so-and-so would do such a thing..."I know him, he's a good guy." If we accept that a person who has at least some good qualities could do such horrific things, we also have to accept that we might be capable of doing bad things, too - not necessarily something as awful as child abuse, but something we wouldn't want to believe we'd do...
It's much easier when the monster has 3 heads and drips saliva off his fangs.
