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INDEED, LET THE GAMES BEGIN

by You Know in

several enemies of the watchtower have ebulliently expressed the sentiment: let the games begin.

indeed, i too share that desire to let the games begin, so-to-speak.

but, what exactly are we to expect when once the games commence?

144thousand_and_one

Watchtower leaders are guilty of complicity in crimes against children, just as much as John Cardinal Law and other high Catholic officials are.

Thanks Alan, for your statements in this regard.

You Know, over the years, your cult leadership has encouraged the faithful to compel their children to perform marketing services (i.e. going "out in service") on behalf of the WTS without compensation. As a result, the WTS has been enriched by the exploitation of children and owes all children who were victimized by WTS greed a huge moral debt. I've raised this issue to you in another thread, but for some reason, you failed to address it. Is that because you are at a loss for words when it comes to advocating/defending the exploitation of children that is rampant in your cult?

Similarly, why is it that your cult doesn't provide child care services or other activities for children during the meetings? Meetings are simply too long and too boring to expect kids to be able to sit still and quiet through their duration. The penalty for many kids who can't sit still while being blasted with effluent from the platform is beatings, many of them public (at the kingdom hall). Is it simply that the policy makers in your cult are ignorant of the common needs and attributes of children, or are they just sadistic men who take pleasure in the suffering of children?

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Do they do it for the money?

by LDH in

jw
friends

what never ceases to amaze me is why people ask this question about the gb.. why do they do it?

they don't get paid.

they're not getting rich!.

144thousand_and_one

What never ceases to amaze me is why people ask this question about the GB.
Why do they do it? They don't get paid. They're not getting rich!

Lisa,

While the JWs make frequent claims that the GB doesn't get paid, the WTS does not disclose its financial details to the public. Therefore, don't be too sure that these folks aren't being compensated. I find it very hard to believe these guys aren't getting paid, and furthermore, I believe the compensation is probably substantial and unwarranted.

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Things I'm looking forward to once I leave

by Leander in

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for the first time in a long time i actually have something to look forward to.

knowing that i no longer will be under the constraints of a oppresive religion has done a lot for me.

(and i have'nt left yet) .

144thousand_and_one

If I was just leaving, the thing I'd probably look forward to most would be premarital sex!

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anger triggers...

by zanex in

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this last week some of my mother's family (my gma, gpa, uncle etc) got in contact with me.

they are all non borg and have been anti borg for as long as i can remember but for years i treated them like shit because i was "trained to" but now when i talk to them and hear that they are just normal people with normal lives and i feel very guilty for the way i once treated them.

they dont hold me responsible for any of those actions and always tell me that i am family no matter what.

144thousand_and_one

Zanex,

I can totally relate to your feelings of anger. Although I was born and raised a JW, I never liked it, and stopped attending meetings at age 14.

23 years later, I realize that my parents (who are still JWs) were only doing what they thought was right. The organization did a good job of deceiving them and encouraging them to strip us of all the joys of childhood and exploit us like childhood slaves rendering marketing services (i.e. "going out in field service") for the benefit of a corporation. I no longer harbor any resentment towards my parents.

I harnessed that negative energy you're feeling to achieve personal and professional success. I still feel angry, now and then, but the best revenge is to live good and enjoy life.

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train up a child...with a squeegee...

by wheelwithinwheel in

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while relaxing with my morning java at the local coffee joint i suddenly noticed window-washing equipment moving across the glassed surfaces of the restaurant.

yes, there was one of the local j-dubs hard at it.

the strange thing was the height of his helper ... about the height of an 8-year-old.

144thousand_and_one

I wonder if anyone has any statistics on the performance of home schooled students on the SAT exam as well as the percentage of such students who were accepted and matriculated at reputable universities.

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New York Islander fans lack class

by Jigrigger in

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...it was evident when they booed during the canadian anthem.. jerks!.

jrig

144thousand_and_one

WHO CARES?

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train up a child...with a squeegee...

by wheelwithinwheel in

jw
friends

while relaxing with my morning java at the local coffee joint i suddenly noticed window-washing equipment moving across the glassed surfaces of the restaurant.

yes, there was one of the local j-dubs hard at it.

the strange thing was the height of his helper ... about the height of an 8-year-old.

144thousand_and_one

On a side note, when I tell people I used to be a Jehovah's Witness, they tell me that "the saddest thing about the JW kids is that they didn't get to celebrated holidays." I say, "no" it was being alienated from having a real social life.

Sadder yet is the rampant exploitation of children that is encouraged by the JWs and implemented by parents. The organization avails itself of free child labor by encouraging parents to require their kids to "go out in service." This despicable practice is only one of many inappropriate child-rearing tactics espoused by an organization interested solely in its own continued expansion and financial success, regardless of the human cost.

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train up a child...with a squeegee...

by wheelwithinwheel in

jw
friends

while relaxing with my morning java at the local coffee joint i suddenly noticed window-washing equipment moving across the glassed surfaces of the restaurant.

yes, there was one of the local j-dubs hard at it.

the strange thing was the height of his helper ... about the height of an 8-year-old.

144thousand_and_one

A big deficiency of home schooling is in the area of social development. Kids who aren't exposed to other kids their age in a social setting on a regular basis are being deprived of the development of an important skill, the ability to successfully interact socially with their peers. In the case of JWs, development of this skill is further impeded by their isolationist views of outsiders as "worldly" and "bad associations."

Furthermore, while there are certainly exceptions to the rule, the vast majority of parents are not fit to be teachers.

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Posting personal information

by Simon in

a reminder: .

i would always recommend that people think twice before revealing personal information unless they are happy and confident about it becoming public knowledge.. a warning:.

if anyone tries to reveal personal information about someone else then the post will be deleted & the account will be locked.

144thousand_and_one

But I know of online sites, especially email, who will refuse information to Police for even people accused of serious crimes.

Naeblis,

They may refuse it, but once an easily obtained court order is issued for the production of such evidence, failure to comply results in contempt sanctions, up to and including incarceration. How many site operators are willing to go to jail for their principles in this regard?

The bottom line is, those who think it's ok to intentionally inflict harm upon others by disclosing the private details of others online without their consent deserve to be deactivated on this forum and also deserve whatever adverse legal consequences their conduct causes. If it happened to me, Simon's deactivation of the perpetrator's account on this forum would be the least of that person's worries.

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Posting personal information

by Simon in

a reminder: .

i would always recommend that people think twice before revealing personal information unless they are happy and confident about it becoming public knowledge.. a warning:.

if anyone tries to reveal personal information about someone else then the post will be deleted & the account will be locked.

144thousand_and_one

thewiz,

Simon isn't a bully, he's a guy who performs a valuable service for many but has to take precautions to protect himself as well as others.

There is nothing unreasonable about prohibiting others from engaging in conduct which is likely to be detrimental to others and is also very likely to result in litigation or worse.

"Practice what you preach" The cited thread does not demonstrate any hypocrisy on Simon's part. Simon started this thread by announcing a prohibition against disclosure of other's personal information. In the thread you cited, he didn't disclose anyone's personal information. Threatening to disclose personal information is not equivalent to actually disclosing it, and, accordingly, your advice to Simon to "practice what you preach" is inapposite to the issue that is the subject of this thread.

If you have an axe to grind with Simon, why don't you just email him privately instead of whining like an old hag. Excuse my French, Simon, but we have a phrase for this in the States: "Boo fucking who!"

144thousand_and_one

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