Having just come back from the UK and spoke with some witnesses to find out how my old congregation is doing, I realized I am now the age that my elders were when I was a kid. In my 30s. And I wonder what the elders who are now in their 60s and 70s are thinking when they look in the mirror and an old face looks back at them. Many of the elders in my old hall are now retired. Do they really still believe the end is near?
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The elders of the 1980s are now in their 60s and 70s
by truthseeker inhaving just come back from the uk and spoke with some witnesses to find out how my old congregation is doing, i realized i am now the age that my elders were when i was a kid.
and i wonder what the elders who are now in their 60s and 70s are thinking when they look in the mirror and an old face looks back at them.
many of the elders in my old hall are now retired.
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Inside Scientology and Escaping the Witnesses - Mon 24th channel 5
by not bitter inthats it really.
uk channel 5 at pm mon 24th.. maybe its already been posted but sounds interesting.
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Thanks for the upload!
I was just in the UK. Fun and exciting times.
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Churches use facial recognition software to track congregants
by truthseeker inhttp://rt.com/news/270121-church-facial-recognition-software/.
churches are joining the widening club of entities using big brother-style facial recognition software to track people.
and they are doing so in secret, according to a producer of a specialized program designed for religious institutions.. churchix uses cctv footage or photos to match churchgoers against a database of high-resolution pictures that a church has to compile on its own.
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http://rt.com/news/270121-church-facial-recognition-software/
Churches are joining the widening club of entities using Big Brother-style facial recognition software to track people. And they are doing so in secret, according to a producer of a specialized program designed for religious institutions.
Churchix uses CCTV footage or photos to match churchgoers against a database of high-resolution pictures that a church has to compile on its own. The software can be used to monitor attendance numbers, and alert church officials if some members stops coming to services. It can also screen for people banned from the church, Greenshpan explained.
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Interview with a member of the JW writing department
by truthseeker inthis is so funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eo1o5qmagu.
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This is so funny
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Oh Damn...I have been sprung!
by stuckinarut2 ini knew it could happen one day...yet i was so careful..... sitting at the sound cabinet, i had our awesome forum open on my tablet, and didn't see the microphone brother looking over at me...... he wandered over and asked me "whats that site?".
i quickly responded "oh, i googled to get to our jw.org site, and this must have popped up" while quickly closing it.... he didn't look too fussed, but my heart was beating..... he is pretty chilled out and certainly not an "uber-dub"...but this was a wake up call to be more careful...i am fading fast, but don't want anymore attention from the nazi-elders while doing so!.
be careful all!
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March Broadcast- Jehovah is speeding up the work
by adjusted knowledge ini watched some of the segments on the jw broadcast.
in the video they showed how they managed their inventory orders for the congregations.
at the conclusion it was stated by the narrator how god is speeding up the work.. the problem is the system they implemented has been used for over two decades in logistics.
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How many people have died since Jehovah began speeding up the work?
The whole thing is absolutely ridiculous.
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What person/persons/group is behind the rebranding of Jehovahs Witnesses
by truthseeker inwith the jw rebranding program in full swing, who do you think is behind all this?
i'm not certain the governing body came up with these ideas.
at least not the old guard which died off around 2009.. given the fairly recent articles in the kingdom ministry and watchtower about the dangers of the internet and having the latest gadget, this rebranding effort can't have been in the works for much more than three years.. the makeover is slick...very slick...and very clever.
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With the JW rebranding program in full swing, who do you think is behind all this? I'm not certain the governing body came up with these ideas. At least not the old Guard which died off around 2009.
Given the fairly recent articles in the Kingdom Ministry and Watchtower about the dangers of the Internet and having the latest gadget, this rebranding effort can't have been in the works for much more than three years.
The makeover is slick...very slick...and very clever. Beyond the mindset of GB 2.0. And given the lack of college education, whoever designed this new marketing tool knew exactly what they were doing and were well versed in human psychology.
JW TV, JW animations and the logo are not the ideas of amateurs.
If we could find out those really responsible for this religion's makeover, it would go a long way to solving the puzzle as to why the makeover was really necessary. We think we know why and say it was on poor retention of children and teens, but is there more to this?
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We're not dealing with sincere anointed who genuinely believe their teachings but scam artists
by truthseeker inlooking at all the doctrinal teachings over the last five years, it's almost impossible for any person of conscience who originated such doctrine to do a complete u-turn and change it when the passage of time has proved beyond doubt that doctrine is no longer credible.. i say this with reference to the generation of 1914. they were so sure.
it was part of the awake!
masthead for decades that those who saw the events of 1914 would also see the great tribulation.. .
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They are not spiritual and I question their delusion - I think they know it's a scam and are comfortable with it.
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We're not dealing with sincere anointed who genuinely believe their teachings but scam artists
by truthseeker inlooking at all the doctrinal teachings over the last five years, it's almost impossible for any person of conscience who originated such doctrine to do a complete u-turn and change it when the passage of time has proved beyond doubt that doctrine is no longer credible.. i say this with reference to the generation of 1914. they were so sure.
it was part of the awake!
masthead for decades that those who saw the events of 1914 would also see the great tribulation.. .
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Looking at all the doctrinal teachings over the last five years, it's almost impossible for any person of conscience who originated such doctrine to do a complete u-turn and change it and still believe it when the passage of time has proved beyond doubt that doctrine is no longer credible.
I say this with reference to the Generation of 1914. They were so sure. It was part of the Awake! masthead for decades that those who saw the events of 1914 would also see the Great Tribulation.
Now, imagine the old GB 1.0. For decades they believed and taught that the 1914 generation would not pass before the GT began. In the 1993 conventions there were rumors that there would be a change and in 1994 there was little mention of the generation of 1914 that year, which was by now already eighty years old.
Until 1995 - the Awake! masthead removes reference to 1914 and leaves the beginning of the tribulation open-ended.
So what were the then Governing Body members actually thinking? Could they still believe with all their heart that their 1914 Generation was really true? Surely some doubts must have set in?
So when the changes begin in 1995 this continues on for the next decade until more changes are announced. The generation of 1914 are first the anointed, then the wicked people living in the mid 1990s, then back to the anointed.
Until 2012 or so when the generation becomes two overlapping generations.
Can anyone see how utterly ridiculous this is? We laugh at this and wonder how could the GB believe this crap? Seriously? Two overlapping generations?
Then this new revised teaching starts to get printed in the new releases at this year's district convention.
And I'm beginning to wonder about the sincerity of the Governing Body.
Either they are fooling themselves OR they are perpetuating a SCAM on the body of believers.
I am now inclined to think, that this is not a group of seven misguided elderly anointed who sincerely believe they have the truth, because no sane person could possibly u-turn so many times on one single teaching and yet still believe they had the truth...so...
I am of the strong opinion that they have been caught with their pants down - chronology has backed them in a corner, and they have no way out except to change the teaching, but in doing so they have lost credibility among themselves and the flock who wait in perpetuity for the Great Tribulation.
They are deliberately and wilfully perpetuating a scam to fool the masses because they have to keep the Great Watchtower engine well oiled or the whole thing comes to an end.
Hence all the distractions, like the grey Bible, the JW.org web site etc.
We're not dealing with sincere elderly anointed who genuinely believe what they teach but scam artists.
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Never give up exposing the Society
by truthseeker ini think now, more than ever, this psuedo-religion needs to be exposed.
they are harming people mentally, emotionally, and financially.. they are a registered charity which does not perform charitable works.. they are pillaging kingdom hall funds which were voluntarily given by the friends for the benefit of their own congregation.. they discourage higher education for young people while encouraging them to donate their entire life to "kingdom interests".
they wilfully and deliberately pull the wool over the eyes of the rank and file with their ever changing doctrines.. .
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I think now, more than ever, this psuedo-religion needs to be exposed. They are harming people mentally, emotionally, and financially.
They are a registered charity which does not perform charitable works.
They are pillaging Kingdom Hall funds which were voluntarily given by the friends for the benefit of their own congregation.
They discourage higher education for young people while encouraging them to donate their entire life to "Kingdom Interests"
They wilfully and deliberately pull the wool over the eyes of the rank and file with their ever changing doctrines.
Let's keep on exposing them, each of us doing what we can. We owe it to our friends and family who are still members.