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  I need some advise (I want to get divorced)

  by Leander in

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  i'll start this post off by saying i love my wife, she has beautiful qualities and a sweet personality.

  however i realize (and i think she does too, though she may not admit it) that since i left the org behind our goals and viewpoints are no longer unified.

  as a couple we rarely fight or argue, we still have many of the same values but yet we have some issues that i know will never be fully resolved.

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  Monday night it was BBgun scolding me in front of my wife and a couple relatives because I worship Satan and Jehovah hates me because I don't go to the meetings...my wife clapped her hands and said..From the mouth of babes!

  Shocking behaivior there. Not from the bb because she's only doing what she's told and coached to do while not in your presense, but for your wife to delight in you being "dressed down" by BB in such a way speaks volumes about the state of her feelings for you and what she expects from bb until you go back to meetings.

  Nobody should have to live in such a hostile environment. I'm sure she would not be happy if your roles were reversed.

  This, for me, would definitely have been a straw that would've broken the camel's back.
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  I need some advise (I want to get divorced)

  by Leander in

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  i'll start this post off by saying i love my wife, she has beautiful qualities and a sweet personality.

  however i realize (and i think she does too, though she may not admit it) that since i left the org behind our goals and viewpoints are no longer unified.

  as a couple we rarely fight or argue, we still have many of the same values but yet we have some issues that i know will never be fully resolved.

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  I'm literally crying as I write this........

  I can see where you're going with this Leander......the pendulum of this emotion is swinging back and forth with me.

  I'm fighting desperately trying to ignore the handwriting on the wall that's moving me towards feeling the same way with my wife right now, though I love her deeply. An issue arose a few days ago that greatly magnified the differences between us and now, more often than not, I find myself thinking of other possibilities.

  That is not to say that I'm throwing in the towel in the fight to save our relationship to hook up with the first warm body that presents itself. Right now, I don't want anyone else, I don't need anyone else, not looking for anyone else, and am more than willing to throw myself in front of a train in defense of this woman's life. I'm more than willing to get counseling, non-JW of course, as a last resort. The last thing I want is a "cheese and cracker man" elder telling me that if I just "fall in lockstep" everything will be fine because I'm beyond bending my conscious to accept WT dogma anymore.

  She wants more than anything else for me to "go back to the hall" while at the same time she understands that it probably will never get that cold in hell. We are empty-nesters, so children are not an issue, it's just that I'm finding that I want new expereinces, travel and adventure, with her accompanying, and I'm seeing that she wants to "get back to meetings" and regular association in WT-world.

  I want her to be happy....but I need to be happy too.
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  bank/credit-card accespoint in JW-convensionhall

  by Ozner in

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  the 2 jw convension-halls in the netherlands have now a bank/credit-card accespoint to give contribution to the wts with your bank or creditcards.

  do you know this happens in other country's?

  it is really strange to see that brs&srs are giving donations with their visa & mastercards.

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  So then, how much IN FEES ALONE, does the WT$ stand to gain with EACH transaction?

  My guess is that the WT will charge an access fee on top of the debit or charge so that they'll have to not incurr any cost above the monthly fee's for the system.
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  bank/credit-card accespoint in JW-convensionhall

  by Ozner in

  1. watchtower
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  the 2 jw convension-halls in the netherlands have now a bank/credit-card accespoint to give contribution to the wts with your bank or creditcards.

  do you know this happens in other country's?

  it is really strange to see that brs&srs are giving donations with their visa & mastercards.

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  And: the convensionhalls are payed off, but every weekend the congregations has to pay much money for using it. Does this work also in other country's?

  Yes it does.

  I remember the fanfare of finally getting the Texas Rosenburg Assembly Hall built When I was deep into dubbism. Our first assembly in that hall and like cockwork, during the Saturday announcements they announce this obscene deficit and I'm sitting there thinking, didn't the circuits just pay upwards to 12mil to get this hall built? The soceity owns this outright and they don't have to pay any taxes on it.......why are we in a deficit for something that should already be paid for save the cost of electricity and water?
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  bank/credit-card accespoint in JW-convensionhall

  by Ozner in

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  2. scandals

  the 2 jw convension-halls in the netherlands have now a bank/credit-card accespoint to give contribution to the wts with your bank or creditcards.

  do you know this happens in other country's?

  it is really strange to see that brs&srs are giving donations with their visa & mastercards.

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  Very interesting........

  They don't want you to stay at unapproved hotels, no longer serve food during conventions, chastise you for going outside of the convention site for a meal, nor do they allow the venues to open the concession stands, but they're more than happy to "simplify" you life by setting up a bank\credit-card acess point to make it easier for you to donate.

  Classic........

  I'm still wondering how I could've been so stupid.
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  The 2003 WT CD

  by 95stormfront in

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  did anyone else know that this has already been quietly released ?.

  pm me.

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  Did anyone else know that this has already been quietly released ?

  PM me.
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  What did you actually enjoy about JW meetings?

  by Pinned Blouse in

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  as much as i dreaded going to all the meetings there were things that i did enjoy.. 1. no special parking spaces for the elders, etc.. 2. no collections plate going around the room.

  3. no one person giving the talk every single week (can you imagine the same speaker 3 to 4 times a week, every day?

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  When they ended and it was time to go home.
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  Any of you worked for Primerica? My experience at their "seminar."

  by truthseeker in

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  a few weeks ago, a brother called me out of the blue and asked me if i was interested in working for him.

  he told me he had his own business and was looking to "expand.

  " he told me i "was a special person" with "good qualities" and "capable of going places.

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  OMG...Primerica!!!!!

  When I was "new in the troof" I had a "brother" harassing the $hit out of me about starting my own business as an associate of his selling these junk financial products. And, he approached me with it much the same way, telling me that this was an opportunity to not be missed and how special I was to have been chosen to participate.

  Talk about blowing smoke up a person's a$$.......

  I went to the seminar, and before I knew it, just like you, I was being asked to provide the names of all my friends and family to recruit and sell these "products" to, of which he was to have gotten a sizable chunk of whatever was made. It got to the point where I was ignoring the brother's calls and when I finally did happen to answer the phone he chastised me for not apreciating the opportunity and for wasting his time.

  It does seem that some JWs are more prone to falling for these scams. One of my bil's are always looking for a rich quick angle and JW mil has sold everything from Avon, to Amway, to Shaklee.

  Hell, I'll bet she still has boxes of Shaklee vitamins from years ago that she hasn't been able to sell.
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  Daughter Moving On From JW BF . . .

  by Corvin in

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  my daughter has been accepting of my intervening in her relationship with an unbaptized jw.

  although still sad at times, she is determined to finish high school (this is her senior year) and go on to college.

  (carl, her x-boyfriend, is a hs drop out and aspires to get a job at guitar center and eventually get certified for smog inspecting automobiles.

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  Very lovely girl......

  If only I were 20 years younger.....
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  Elder Gives Talk About "Unbelievers" & "Unbeliever" Calls Him An "Asshole"

  by minimus in

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  the husband of a sister attended the public talk and the visiting elder came down hard on "unbelievers" and "worldly" people.

  he spoke about how miserable it is for faithful sisters to be married to such "worldly unbelievers" because they cannot share the same spiritual goals.

  this man recently had started to attend some meetings because his wife pretty much begged him to.

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  he says "fine by me but why don't you get off your ass and be a responsible father and look after your Kids spirituality!"

  Oh.....their would've been as Ass-kicking on the way to this guy.