YYYYYYEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! FOR THE GENTLEMEN
Englishman, that was one wise statement. I like that.l
shel
as i went about my wifely duties today, i had a thought and would like the imput from some former brothers and/or elders, ms, po, co's.. since leaving the borg, has the way you view your wife/companion/daughter/sister/mother changed?
let me elaborate.
while being brought up a dub, i was taught that women were in subjection.
YYYYYYEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! FOR THE GENTLEMEN
Englishman, that was one wise statement. I like that.l
shel
take a look at an earlier thread i started.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=36501&site=3.
even ct russell had a beard!!!
I had a problem with this years ago, because my hubby looks soooooooooooooo sexy with a beard or go T (spell??) but they could never give me any biblical reasoning for it. Just said they wanted clean cut men going door to door. Whatever!!! Hubby now has one. I dont see the problem with it, that is as long as I dont have any, anyway!!!
mamashel
hey guys!.
i just wanted to give you a warm thank-you for all your sweet comments and the well wishes!
i'm recoving very well from my surgury and i'm feeling quiet good!
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I am so glad your doing better. Its good to hear from you. Hope to chat with you soon. You got a good guy tink, you should be thankful. Its not easy to find em like that. (I got one too)
Take care
mamashel
a little advise if possible.. i do suffer on and off from depression and am at present engaging in a warfare to overcome these problems, as unfortunately i have become bogged down with negativity again.. have any of you here used medication prescribed by your gp and if so, was it effective for you?
also, did you suffer any side effects from the use of the medication?.
i am interested as my gp has offered to put me on a course of anti-depressants, but to say i am fearful, is to understate how i feel about the use of prescribed drugs.
Hi dizzycat! I have suffered pretty bad in the past with depression and anxiety. I can honestly say it has been better since leaving the kh, but i still have my times. Each person is different. My system does not do well with meds. I always have some type of reaction to them. The first one they tried me on was paxil at 20 mg. This made me flat lined. I mean i was so out of it i was slobbering. hehe so my kids say!
That was for anxiety, Then they tried me on wellbutrin for depression and anxiety, and the side effects were worse from it. I was so anxious i couldnt sit still and my heart was racing. But not everyone is effected that way. It does have a list of side effects though. Talk to your doctor or pharmisist.
In all honesty, the very best thing i have found for depression and anxiety is to exercise and eat right. I know, boring and who has the time, but it has really been the only thing that has worked for me. And it works really well, because it releases something in your system that makes you feel good. I forget what its called. But try it a couple of times a week, and the biggest things to cut down on are caffine and sugar. My 2 favorite things in the world. But my doctor suggested this program to me and not only do i feel better but i have lost 26 pounds and god knows, that will make ya feel better.
Hope your feeling better soon.
SHelley
first i would like to thank all of you for your comfort and support in this time of my familys lives.
i always try to be upbeat and positive in any situation, but this one was alittle hard.
and to jesika and valis((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((jes & val)))))))))))))))))))).
((((((((((((bikerchic & Scootergirl))))))))))))))))) thank you so much. It is unbleievable that some idiots would want to slam bass me, but thats ok, i'm tuffer than nails.
You want to know what really erks my nerve in all this??? The fact that the mother took this fool back is the most gorss thing, but the other is that in all this crap, (being a baptized jw and marring out of the truth), then allowing and knowing and seeing her daughter being abused, she has never been df'd. She was privately reproved for marring him after 2 months and they came to talk to him and he told them they were a cult. That is when they reproved her. Now all this is goin on and they know about it and nothing has been done. We have reported abuse by her over the years to the elders, and they never even talked to her about it.
It just sickens me.
mamashel
eheheheh..... .
sincerely, .
district overbeer of the "empirical imperial" classedited by - valis on 4 october 2002 10:30:10.
Vailis, you are a hoot! Thanks for the laugh!
Shelley
first i would like to thank all of you for your comfort and support in this time of my familys lives.
i always try to be upbeat and positive in any situation, but this one was alittle hard.
and to jesika and valis((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((jes & val)))))))))))))))))))).
FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR COMFORT AND SUPPORT IN THIS TIME OF MY FAMILYS LIVES. I ALWAYS TRY TO BE UPBEAT AND POSITIVE IN ANY SITUATION, BUT THIS ONE WAS ALITTLE HARD. AND TO JESIKA AND VALIS((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((JES & VAL))))))))))))))))))))
JESIKA IS THE FIRST ONE TO CATCH ON TO WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH ME, AND SHE AND VALIS CALLED ME ON PHONE TO TRY AND HELP.
MOST OF YOU ALREADY HAVE READ WHAT HAPPENED TO MY LITTLE SISTER IN LAW WITH THE ABUSE FROM HER FATHER. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ATTACKS FROM DIFFERENT ONES IN MY E-MAIL AND ON THE BOARD, BUT THATS OK BECAUSE THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE SITUATION.
BUT THE UPDATE ON IT IS THIS:
She is now in protective custody and an officer called me yesterday to ask me about the situation. This man has a mile long record of violence. He did 15 years for manslaughter and just recently got out because the prison he was in shut down and he was an old timer. (he is 49 yrs old). He is on paroll, and the police have done NOTHING so far. His paroll officer has done NOTHING so far. I dont know how they get away with it, but they have more rights than the one that was abused. Anyway, they are working on the issue of having him arrested and to stand trial. I will be the first in line to testify. The reasons that she is not aloud to stay with us right now are because she has to be protected from this man, and he knows where we live, and the other is because my husband kicked his ass about a month ago for hitting his mother. We have been married for 10 years and I have heard about this man for 10 years because he used to abuse my husband and his brother when they were young. He actually hit his brother in the face with a 2 by 4 when he was 14 yrs old. So this is why i have so much concern for them putting her back in the home..
I was told yesterday that IF he goes back to prison (because he was to serve 25 to life) then we would get full custody of the child. That is my hope. That is what we want. I dont even want her to go back to the mother because she has a mile long record of abuse also with childrens services. I just cant figure out for the life of me why they put these children back in these homes, The caseworker told me it is his job to protect her but they prefer the child to be with their families. YEAH RIGHT! they prefer not to have to pay someone else to take care of them,
Anyway, I think things are looking up. She is doing well and is coming to visit us this weekend again. She is happy and getting some counseling. So again, thank you thank you thank you all for the support and love that you have shown me in this time.
mamashel
i'm new here and this is the first post i make (i promise that more will come).
i have been following most of the posts made here quietly for about 4 months and i would like to thank all of you who are called apostates for the well documented and researched material you have presented here.thanks to you i know now the truth about the wt organization and i'm no longer blind and misled.
i disassociated myself about 2 months ago after 15 years of very "faithful" service to the society.i was regular pioneer for 12 years and an elder for 8 years, i served mainly as the service overeer.my experience was published in the 2 of the society's magazins.. as i was a very zealous and prominent elder in my circuit i zealously promoted the organizational rules and i allowed myself to be fully used by the society to promote those mind controle techniques that now i know hurt those who were my sheep.
Welcome to the board new friend!
First, no apology is necessary. You were cuaght up in a web just like the rest of us here. The org is the ones who should be sorry, but they for the most part are not. Sometimes i feel so angry at them, but other times I have to look at myself and relize they are just being led along as I was. It is a very painful experience to go through, and one I never wish to go through ever again. I just pray that many more like yourself can see the org for what it really is. I also would suggest reading the book Crisis of Conscience by Ray Franz, it was very helpful to me.
I hope you remain strong, and our thoughts and prayers are with you in this time.
mamashel
i'm soooo confused!!!
i grew up in the 'truth'.
about 4 years ago my parents divorced.
Hello, and welcome to the board. We all understand everything that you are going through right now. Some were there and some still are. Gopher makes a good point saying some of the teachings are truth just like in other religions. As far as armegenden goes, I dont know if i will ever know the real truth about that, but I had gotten to a point in my life that i was so misserable I didnt care if i lived or died today or in armegeden. So what I had to do was make up in my mind that i did derserve to be happy in whatever decision I made, even though we are taught differently. It was not an easy road. I have only been out for about 6 months now. Been inactive for a couple of years off and on, but i am more happy than i have ever been. Hubby is a totally different person. Actually someone I can live with. I hated him as a witness. LOL
But you have to take one day at a time and reprogram your mind and spirit to tell yourself it is ok to do what you feel inside. And evidently you feel it is wrong to to to the hall or you would be going right???
Read the book Crisis of Conscience by Ray Franz, and I believe that you will know in your heart that what you are doing is right.
Best wishes in your search.
Shelley
one of the few unfounded (i think) accusations that have been thrown at me by certain people is that i have caused 'untold damage' to the silentambs cause.. i don't know quite what this is supposed to mean or what i'm suppoed to have done or whether it is anything more than just 'mud' flung by people who find it easier to criticise rather than actually do anything.. over the last year (is it?
) i've been happy to promote the silentlambs cause and have hosted links to bills site and vidoes / sound files of tv programmes, radio reports, photo's of the march etc... as well as providing a place for people to meet and arrange things.
i hope it has been useful and helpful to at least some people.. if i have inadventantly held things up in some way then i unreservedly and wholeheartedly apologise.. all i can say is, i do my best and may not always get things right.
Simon, no way. And I was going to try and reach you about one of my posts, with the big boobs. I was only trying to get one picture and the whole site showed up. So sosososo sorry. It was an accident.
Your site has been so helpful to me. It has been a way for me to express myself that i was unable to do before. So ignre the ignorance that is coming at you and keep on keepin on baby!!
mamashel