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  This board is not for me.

  by Wafe in

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  when i came to this board, i thought that it was for encouragement amoung people who had been treated badly by the wtbts, i did not understand that people were going to come here and bash god, his son and the bible.

  i could understand some embitterment over religion but some of you people are down right insulting.

  not to mention the fact that i have tried to contact others on the board and have had my messages ignored.. .

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  Gary1914

  I have seen things on this board about God that are just down right insulting.

  Do you really believe that an Almighty God needs you to champion him? If God feels that he is being insulted I believe that he is capable of taking care it himself.
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  Jehovah's great justice

  by Zico in

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  in the beginning .

  jehovah created millions and millions of angels.

  jehovah created 2 humans.

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  Gary1914

  It's the idea that Jehovah had to test his creations to see that they loved him that gets me.

  Why did he have to test them? He created them, he was their father, he loved them and they loved him. Why did they have to be tested? It seems strange to me. I have children and I cannot imagine giving them a test to see if they loved me. Was it just obedience? What child listens to their parent all the time. Why couldn't he just forgive them and move on. Why all the drama? "Do what I tell you to do or I'll kill you." Did he really love them when he could give them an ultimatum like that?

  But God loves drama doesn't he? In addition he appears to be needy, demanding constant praise and a bit petulant. It's little wonder why Satan and his cohorts rebeled against him.
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  My Bethel Experience Part 17

  by new boy in

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  more "odds and ends".

  i liked lyman swingle (governing body member)......he knew when to curse at the right time.

  i think, thats why i went to him, when i was having so much trouble with debbie's parents.......he seemed "cool" and down to earth.............he might have been bit of a racist though.. one time a self righteous (known as sr) new boy, went to him and complained about what he heard in the bindery..........."brother swingle" the kid said "i heard some brothers cursing, in the bindery!

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  Gary1914

  Hi newboy. I really enjoyed reading your experiences while you were serving at Bethel, but this cannot be the end of your stories.

  How did you and your wife fare after marriage? If it's not too personal I would like to know. Also, what prompted your departure from the witnesses (you are not still a witness are you?).

  I am so caught up in your story I want to know, more, more!
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  The Public Talk yesterday was about nothing......................again!

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  i try to attend some sunday meetings just to keep peace in my family .but,it is almost unbearable to listen to these public talks.yesterday,the talk was about adam and eve and how they ate the forbidden fruit.how they sinned and now we are all sinners.how they were thrown out of paradise .how the angels came down and had relations with females.that jesus died for our sins.

  only jehovah's witnesses who are faithful to the end will inherit paradise earth.the earth will be here to time indefinite.the survivors will never die after the 1000 year reign is over.. how many times have we heard this talk?

  how many more times can they pound these talks into everyone's brain?

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  Gary1914

  We had a visiting brother give the Public Talk yesterday.

  He was an absolutely horrible speaking.

  He used the word "actually" in each and every sentence he spoke. "Actually" this and "actually" that.

  It was maddening.
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  Governing Body Going After eBay

  by Gary1914 in

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  hello everyone.. i don't if this has been posted before.

  if it has i apologize, but maybe my version will add to what is already known.. my brother is a district overseer.

  the society sometimes places conferences calls to do's, co's and other overseers, especially when it is something that they do not want to put in writing.

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  Gary1914

  My wife just told me that she learned from the sister-in-law that the Society is worried that witnesses who browse eBay for books and other items are often exposed to anti-witness dogma and they are beginning to ask questions of their elders in the congregation.

  So it is not just the copyrights that are bothering them about eBay, it is also because eBay is causing some witnesses to question what they have been taught.

  Yeah, eBay!
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  Governing Body Going After eBay

  by Gary1914 in

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  hello everyone.. i don't if this has been posted before.

  if it has i apologize, but maybe my version will add to what is already known.. my brother is a district overseer.

  the society sometimes places conferences calls to do's, co's and other overseers, especially when it is something that they do not want to put in writing.

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  Gary1914

  Hello Everyone.

  I don't if this has been posted before. If it has I apologize, but maybe my version will add to what is already known.

  My brother is a District Overseer. The Society sometimes places conferences calls to DO's, CO's and other overseers, especially when it is something that they do not want to put in writing.

  Sunday night my brother got such a conference call. I only know this because my wife and I were visiting and he yelled at us to come and take the dog away. I volunteered to go and get the dog and he was on the phone and writing very fast notes on paper. He was asking questions like what is VERA or VERO and then said something about district convention manuscripts. I tried to take my time getting the dog, but there was only so much I could do before he started to look at me strangely. So I took the dog and left.

  The call lasted over a half hour. When he came out I asked him what it was all about. At first he would not say anything and told me that it was none of my business. But then after his wife prodded him a little he said that it was just that the Society was concerned about the amount and kind of literature that was being sold on eBay. He also said that apostates have taken over eBay and some of the most vicious lies about the Society are put in auctions on eBay in the guise of selling a bood. Also, they have found books and pamphlets stolen from Kingdom Halls being sold on eBay. The last thing he said was that the Society has to have people looking carefully at all auctions for Watchtower material to make sure their copyright is not being violated and to look for stolen books. The phone rang again. It wass for him and that was all I got. Soon after, we had to leave for home.

  If there another District Overseet here that received such a call. If so, I would like to know the whole story. What exactly did the Society say and why are they worried. I believe that there was something else he was not saying, but I don't know what it is.

  Is anyone familiar with the term VERA or VERO. That seemed to come up often in the conversation he was having.

  If I can think of anything else, I'll post again.
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  Anyone have ever seen a ghost (spirit)?

  by Nicolas in

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  when i was going at the kingdom hall with my father (i was very young), it happened from time to time that the subject of spirits entered in the conversation.

  then at this point, it seemed that everyone had their own little story to tell about the spirits of the devils.. .

  personnally, i'm always skeptic about these things and i won't believe it until i see it.

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  Gary1914

  I've never seen a ghost, but I believe in ghosts.

  As Jehovah's Witnesses we are taught to believe that demons are taking an active interest in us, that a spirit named Jehovah is watching us and counting our field service time, we believe that shrubbery can talk and that men can walk on water and perform miracles.

  We are taught that angels are protecting us in the door to door work and that demons can hide in old clothes and appliances.

  I believe that Jehovah's Witnesses are encouraged to believe in spirits.

  Because of this I also am superstitious. I don't walk under ladders or cross the path of a black cat. Not that I really believe that some harm will come to me (well.. I don't think I do), but why take changes? If spirits and demons are alive and well, who knows what they can do?
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  Please contribute. Children in divided homes.....

  by jambon1 in

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  ..............i am specifically refering to those raised in the truth by both parents and then one parent leaves.

  firstly, any experiences of those who went through this would be appreciated.. mainly, i am just wondering what is the best way to influence your children against the jw mindset.

  it is a concern to me that my children grow up believing some of the doctrines of the wts.

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  Gary1914

  Hi. When I saw the word "contribute" I though that you were asking for money.

  I can't contribute because both of my parents were raised Jehovah's Witnesses and they have stayed together for many, many years.

  I wish you all the best.
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  What do you think about tv commercials nowdays?

  by Fisherman in

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  frankly, tv commercials nowdays offend me and get me angry.

  i hate the geico commercials which are very intrusive and retarded.

  i also dislike the sexual exancements commercials/ what a bunch of trash are todays commercials, probably just like the item it advertizes.

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  Gary1914

  Gary, I hate the caveman commercials. I do not like any of Geico ads. If I had the cash I would bring some suits against these intrusive commericals. I do not mind seeing a commercial once in a while. I think that the fcc is not doing its job.

  .......but Fisherman, what about the one where the two cavemen are sitting in a restaurant with a Geico representative and one caveman orders roast duck with mango salsa and the other caveman tells the waiter he has no appetite and then gives the Geico representative the "look" meant to imply that his loss of appetite is because of the representative's insensitive remarks,

  Isn't that funny? Just a little? Isn't it?
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  What do you think about tv commercials nowdays?

  by Fisherman in

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  frankly, tv commercials nowdays offend me and get me angry.

  i hate the geico commercials which are very intrusive and retarded.

  i also dislike the sexual exancements commercials/ what a bunch of trash are todays commercials, probably just like the item it advertizes.

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  Gary1914

  I think that the Geico ads with the cavemen are the best commercials on television today. I think they are hysterical.