As Truthseeker has the July 1st WT
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/71746/1.ashx
maybe he can verify.
Have to say, I said some years ago that they'd switch it to Islam. Maybe the Holy spirit's been acting on me after all.
scotsman
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15th July WT ...Islam is the King of the North??
by caspian inif this has already been posted, i apologise for repeating it.
in the july wt, the writers have come up with the new theory that islam is the new king of the north.
i haven't seen the article yet, .
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They just dont get it do they?..
by flower ini saw my family this past weekend while visiting my home state for a few days.
its almost comical at this point how terrified my own siblings are of me.
like they cant even look me in the eye when they talk ....its so sad.
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scotsman
Flower,
It is bizarre how they just don't get it. I recently looked after my mother while she was ill and although she was very appreciative, saying I did a better job of it than my siblings, she still told me I'd die at Armageddon. I told her that at least she'd be cared for by me until then. And we laughed.
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New BLOOD Watchtower - June 15, 2004 Issue!
by UnDisfellowshipped inthe watchtower, june 15, 2004 issue, pages 14-24:.
" for the benefit of current readers, the answer is reprinted on pages 29-31 of this magazine.
19 near its conclusion, the reprinted answer on pages 29-31 says: "does the fact that opinions and conscientious decisions may differ mean that the issue is inconsequential?
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scotsman
As I said when I posted about this article a few weeks ago, it's as clear as mud.
Most witnesses that I know/knew have/had no problem with recieving blood fractions and didn't suffer any guilt or congregation repercussions. My brother's daughter recieved a blood transfussion, against his wishes, her little life was saved and nobody said a peep.
And of course it's about control. Did you expect anything else?
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New BLOOD Watchtower - June 15, 2004 Issue!
by UnDisfellowshipped inthe watchtower, june 15, 2004 issue, pages 14-24:.
" for the benefit of current readers, the answer is reprinted on pages 29-31 of this magazine.
19 near its conclusion, the reprinted answer on pages 29-31 says: "does the fact that opinions and conscientious decisions may differ mean that the issue is inconsequential?
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scotsman
As to taking in blood fractions, some have thought, 'This is a matter of conscience, so it doesn't make any difference.' That is faulty reasoning. The fact that something is a matter of conscience does not mean that it is inconsequential. It can be very serious. One reason is that it can affect individuals whose conscience differs from ours. We see that from Paul's advice about meat that might have been presented to an idol and was later sold in a market. A Christian ought to be concerned about not 'wounding consciences that are weak.' If he stumbles others, he could 'ruin his brother for whose sake Christ died' and be sinning against Christ. Hence, while issues about blood fractions are for personal decision, those decisions should be taken very seriously.
My first thought when reading the above:
So I should maybe avoid fractions even if it means "stumbling" someone? Meaning that it's better that I die than someone be "stumbled"? F**k that s**t.
I discussed this with my (elder) brother. He doesn't understand it as 'dying rather than stumbling' but that such decisions are private, and should someone decide to take fractions they wouldn't broadcast it. Bit like the oral sex thing really.
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Jehovah's Witnesses are lovely and cuddly kitten soft special people.
by ScoobySnax in.
isn't that what you expected?.
scooby- "emotional meanderer"- snax (i never disappoint....and aim to please)
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scotsman
The box I have you in is - gay guy with Witness issues.
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Political word for the day: Simulacra
by SixofNine inshaken, but apparently not stirred.
yesterday in a q & a with editors from detroit area newspapers president bush said he was "shaken" by reports of abuse of prisoners in us military custody in iraq.
yet, according to his press secretary this morning, he hasn't even looked at the taguba report, the one people around the world are buzzing about in disappointment and outrage and half of washington seems already to be reading.
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scotsman
That Baudrillard is an absolute hoot! His snide little thesis on America could equally be written about Europe.
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Pioneer School Book
by Eyebrow inever since i was a kid i wanted to be a pioneer and go to pioneer school.
i remember how every summer a crop of pioneers would come back all excited from the school with a "pioneer book" that no one was allowed to read except pioneers that had gone to school.
seriously, even as an adult a good friend of mine would not even let me take a peak, as it was taboo.
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scotsman
While I was a JW for 30 years and came across plenty bullshit amongst the Witnesses, i didn't know anyone who thought the pioneer school was some secret brotherhood. Our experiences are sometimes unique and may indeed reflect a lot about us as individuals rather than the organisation we were part of.
God is judging us? Isn't that a line from a Bette Midller/Crystal Gayle song?
My Pioneer School sounded like Mulan's, but is mainly memorable to me because it allowed me to go out drinking with some old friends of mine. The last afternoon also involved enduring some dreadful poetry and abysmal songwriting. And what was with the meaningful little lines everyone tried to write in each other's books!
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Pioneer School Book
by Eyebrow inever since i was a kid i wanted to be a pioneer and go to pioneer school.
i remember how every summer a crop of pioneers would come back all excited from the school with a "pioneer book" that no one was allowed to read except pioneers that had gone to school.
seriously, even as an adult a good friend of mine would not even let me take a peak, as it was taboo.
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scotsman
Sometimes I read things on this site that make me wonder if I was a JW! I don't recall any secrecy around the Pioneer book, nor any pioneers using it as proof of membership of an elite group. Pioneer School was like a 10 day Theocratic Ministry School for me (i.e. involved a lot of day dreaming) and when I got home the book went on a shelf to be left undisturbed - it was just a collection of (dull) stuff from KMs.
If you didn't have the Pioneer book, you missed nothing.
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New WT study article on blood
by scotsman inflicking through what seems to be the latest watchtower i noticed there's an entire article on what blood products witnesses can/not take.
my brother was at a recent hospital liaison meeting and said that the rank & file seem to find it all rather confusing.
the article does a big bit on blood extract products being a conscience matter, and then includes the 'you must not stumble your brother' principle.
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scotsman
It's difficult to post the reference when I don't actually possess the magazine. Flicked through it at my mother's. Thanks for posting it Truthseeker.
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New WT study article on blood
by scotsman inflicking through what seems to be the latest watchtower i noticed there's an entire article on what blood products witnesses can/not take.
my brother was at a recent hospital liaison meeting and said that the rank & file seem to find it all rather confusing.
the article does a big bit on blood extract products being a conscience matter, and then includes the 'you must not stumble your brother' principle.
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scotsman
It must be the most recent WT. Saw it at my Mum's, so she must have got it on Thursday. The cover was either about Loneliness or Teaching Children, can't recall which was the WT, but guess it was the latter.