I don't think so much of a crash but more of just a slow decline. I remember at assemblies that it was noticeable that there was an absence of 18-30 year old. Most of the ones I grew up with are now gone. The converts that are coming in I believe are not to the standard to take it to the next generation. The elderly and infirm section at the assemblies was growing by a few rows each year and very soon these ones will start dying. Even I must admit the older generation JW I knew in my youth are either gone or just to old to care. Then you have got the free flow of information which is certainly having its effect in 1st world countries. True the organisation is still growing in developing countries but the question is, can this be sustained and is it affordable in the long term. I think there are clear signs that money is now becoming an issue. I've heard it said that apostasy will not be the end of Wt but apathy from with in will. Yes it is rotting from the inside.
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What if we could bring down the WBTS?
by derangedjdub inwhat would be your plan or ideal reason the walls came crashing down?
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Japanese Branch Tour - Parody Video
by cappytan instay with it to the chorus.
there's an easter egg.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxq5or2z1cg.
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Conspiracy Theory ?
by Phizzy inwe are all aware here that the wt/jw org is trying its hardest to wriggle out of paying rightful compensation in the form of damages to victims of abuse who bring a claim.. they must be worried about future claims too, not just from decades ago, but from the present, as they have not made any effort as yet to truly protect the vulnerable.. here is my question :.
as they now direct the congregations through the organization known as "the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses" and as in each country this organization is headed and run by a few mendicants with no assets, do you think in future the big jw/wt corporations will deny all responsibility for abuse, by saying the very poor "christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses", which owns no property/real estate and has no cash or other assets, is alone responsible ????
hence no pay out ?.
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Interesting point about elders appointment by holy spirit (apostacy case)
by joe134cd ini was just listening to a jc for apostasy on jwstruggle.
the issue was raised if elders are appointed by holy spirit, then why is there such an issue with sex abuse.
the answer was given (and i thought it was quite true) well jesus was the son of god and he appointed judas under holy spirit, just to have him turn on him.
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I was just listening to a JC for apostasy on JWStruggle. The issue was raised if elders are appointed by holy spirit, then why is there such an issue with sex abuse. The answer was given (and I thought it was quite true) well Jesus was the son of God and he appointed Judas under holy spirit, just to have him turn on him. Curious but what would be your answer to that. -
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Is it common for old men to marry young JW?
by adjusted knowledge ini left in the 90's and marriage partners were similar in age at my former congregation.
i ran into a former jw friend from my childhood.
i haven't seen him in 15 years.
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International Conventions = $$$$. WTBT$ in bed with South Korean government
by Mattieu ini remember the whole process of selecting a host city for australias last international convention.
the australian bethel played the nsw government against the victorian.
it was so similar to choosing an olympic city and the big boys from bethel knew how to play the game.
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Absolutely shocking. There was an international convention hosted in my country. I knew some delegates coming from a developing country. I invited them to stay at my place, as we were told to show hospitality. I was then told by the PO that all delegates had been assigned hotel rooms. I found accommodation in other hotels that were vacant and at a lower price. So armed with this knowledge I emailed these delegates and ask them if the could ask the bethel in their country if they could seek private accommodation with a brother they knew. I was happy to have them. Anyway cut a long story short they ended up staying in the hotel rooms (I think it was just under $1000). When I meet up with them I asked what the reply had been from the bethel about staying with me. I was informed that their email was never replied to. What makes me so mad is I knew these people (from a developing) country couldn't really afford the cost of the hotel, but we're forced to take it. I ended up hiring a van and showing them part of the country side. -
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Court Partially Reverses Judgment in Church Molestation Suit
by defender of truth incourt partially reverses judgment in church molestation suit.
panel says jehovahs witnesses had no duty to warn congregants, but should have kept known molester away from children.
by kenneth ofgang, staff writer.
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I can kind of understand his ruling. Just say that I belonged to a tennis club of which the organisation knew one of the members had been convicted of fraud. Then unbeknown to me I do business with him and he rips me off. That means the tennis club is responsible for not having warned me. Hey it would have been good if they had but it's certainly not an obligation. Imagine if this went through all the law suites that would be popping up.
However it will be interesting to see how this plays out when elders know that if they don't provide adequate supervision to a sex offender then they are liable.
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Article: Reveal News-California court guts child abuse ruling against Jehovah's Witnesses
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.revealnews.org/article/california-court-guts-child-abuse-ruling-against-jehovahs-witnesses/.
california court guts child abuse ruling against jehovahs witnesses.
topics: religion / religion and government .
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LATEST NEWS: CANDANCE CONTI VERIDICT READY - WT LOST!!!!!!!
by Viva la Vida ini'm not an expert but that is my understanding of this: .
opinion filed.. (signed published) the judgment against defendants on the negligence count is affirmed.
the judgment against watchtower on the cause of action for punitive damages is reversed with directions to enter judgment for watchtower on punitive damages.
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Getting JWs To Think By Using Their Own Tactics On Them.
by Island Man ini've been thinking that an effective way to expose the idiocy and vacuousness of jwism is to use it right back on them when they come to your door.
say you're a fader and you've moved to the territory of a different circuit where the jws there don't know your jw background.
when they come knocking at your door, just put on the jw mindset and pretend to yourself that the jws at the door are not jws but members of a "false religion.".
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Oh that was funny. I enjoyed that.