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  for DrivesLikeJehu - Child Baptism

  by Prisca in

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  dlj .

  what i think mommy/wendy (her real name) is getting at is this :.

  getting married is a serious decision that will affect you for the rest of your life.

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  Xandit

  Hey Red, I can't account for the people you purportedly grew up with. You just picked the wrong place.
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  Paducah, KY News 6 Report

  by silentlambs in

  1. watchtower
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  jehovahs witnesses, resigned pastor draw battle line over child molestation coverup charges.

  last month, bill bowen not only resigned as presiding overseer of jehovahs witnesses at draffenville.

  bowen charged his denomination with a national policy of elders not reporting confessions made by child molesters to police.

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  Xandit

  Well Waiting I guess if I have to spell it out for you I can. Seems clear enough to me.

  1. Child makes accusation of sexual abuse by parent.

  2. Elders report allegations to authorities, all actions held in abeyance until determination by civil authorities.

  3. Civil authorities conduct full investigaiton and determine child is lying.

  4. Child admits made the whole thing up because hacked off at parent.

  Question? How to deal with lying child?

  That clear enough for you?
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  for DrivesLikeJehu - Child Baptism

  by Prisca in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dlj .

  what i think mommy/wendy (her real name) is getting at is this :.

  getting married is a serious decision that will affect you for the rest of your life.

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  Xandit

  I really hate it when people get baptized at a young age. I've tried to discourage several but it's usually the parents that are pushing it and they just don't see that there's any reason to wait. I know of quite a few Elders that have tried to put the brakes on when someone at a young age wants to go through the questions but usually they don't have much success stopping it. I even heard a Bethelite at an assembly get a sort of bemused tone in his voice when he mentioned the 11 year old that had been baptized that day, then he said "Well, I guess if he can answer all the questions then he can get baptized." That was from the platform! I think a lot of Witnesses are uncomfortable with young ones making this kind of commitment.
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  "Creator" Book. Is there a reader wh...

  by Thirdson in

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  some of you by choice or by compelling reason will attend the book study to consider the creator book.

  during the study you might want to ask a few questions.

  here are some things to ponder and maybe you can formulate some questions to ask your conductor.. this book is dreadful in its use of quotations.

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  Xandit

  The fact that things were being adjusted by a factor of ten was raised in our book study, with examples just to make sure everyone understood what was going on. To be honest about 80% of the people's eyes were glazing over at that point any way. That kind of stuff is not very interesting to many people.

  Edited by - Xandit on 18 February 2001 22:47:11
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  Paducah, KY News 6 Report

  by silentlambs in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jehovahs witnesses, resigned pastor draw battle line over child molestation coverup charges.

  last month, bill bowen not only resigned as presiding overseer of jehovahs witnesses at draffenville.

  bowen charged his denomination with a national policy of elders not reporting confessions made by child molesters to police.

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  Xandit

  This is such a tough subject. I have personal knowledge of one case that was reported to the civil authorities who later determined that the child had flat out lied about the parent. There were a couple of different drivers but in the end the child, a teenager, admitted the whole thing.

  Let me ask you, how do you deal with the kid then?
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  Whatever Happened to Backbone?

  by Roamingfeline in

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  hi all.. just having my gripe for the day.. heh heh.

  once upon a time, people had something called moral fibre.

  they had ideals which they believed in.

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  Xandit

  How about we string Clinton up from the nearest lamp post, that would be a good way to start on the road back to some sort of civilized behavioural standard.
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  Do Kids Hate Being JW`s?

  by Englishman in

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  my kid brother, tom, was born to witness parents.

  he was something of a surprise package and my parents were delighted.

  my father said that tom was:.

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  Xandit

  Grunt I've always been fairly successful in the Organization with defining myself on my own terms. Things are not nearly as simplistic as you portray them.
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  Online Study Aids?

  by Sassenach in

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  i've been looking for online bible study aids.

  i've just joined up with crosswalk.

  that's got lots to wade through, although it does have the goshen net, which is a fantastic resource.. are there any bible aids, study sites or discussion groups anyone can recommend?

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  Xandit

  Try this http://www.hivolda.no/asf/kkf/rel-stud.html it should keep you occupied for a while.
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  Elder's Manual Here

  by Simon in

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  some may find this useful, it's quite interesting and, if nothing else, really annoys the elders that you can read it.... url: http://home2.inet.tele.dk/carloc/index.htm

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  Xandit

  Let me weigh in with the Old Hippie from another country. There has never been any effort to accumulate any kind of information on disfellowshipped ones at all. In the countries where it's allowed the notes, etc. from the judicial hearing are kept in a sealed file and that's it. This other stuff is just paranoia.
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  Do Kids Hate Being JW`s?

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my kid brother, tom, was born to witness parents.

  he was something of a surprise package and my parents were delighted.

  my father said that tom was:.

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  Xandit

  larc you and I are a whole lot closer in experience than I realized. Addressing your questions.

  In my area only a very limited number pursued higher educaction of any kind. There were quite a few Witnesses that had some education and we had a couple of COs that had degrees and I think that made a difference. I'm pleased to say that's not the case now, at least in my area. I think you're looking at something around 40% are doing something beyond high school, maybe 25% going for at least a Bachelor's. I consider that very encouraging since the US average is about 30% going to college. The dreaded home schooling thing hasn't taken hold here like it has in some areas either.

  Yes, I think it is harder for women.

  "One thing I am not clear on. What is your status today regarding the Witness culture. Are you in, out, or in between?"

  What a good question. Not one that I have a can definitively answer because I don't define myself in those terms. I'm a Christian, I think the basic doctrine as espoused by Witnesses is pretty sound, I think all explanation of prophecy is speculative and that biblical chronology is almost indeciperable in most cases, some of the base dates are probably wrong, maybe by as much as two hundred years, I believe in conduct that is simply and clearly defined by the scriptures not that which is extrapolated or interpolated, I think people should mind their own business, I believe that a public ministry is a necessity for Christians but that it must be in balance with all other aspects of the Christian personality, etc. I could go on for a few pages probably. So I don't really know how to answer your question other than to say I feel personally answerable to God and that the names of organizations doesn't have much to do with that. Not a very good answer I'm afraid and the grammar is horrible but I don't have time to fix it.

  Edited by - Xandit on 15 February 2001 23:33:41