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  First Reaction To My UN letters

  by Ranchette in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my husband called his cousin this morning and the first thing the cousin said to my husband was something like, are you aware that your wife sent us some information that was very disturbing to us?.

  my husband let him know that he did not know i was sending out those letters but he had since done research on the info and found that i was correct.. the cousin asked my husband if he was aware that i could be in trouble for a letter like that.

  my husband informed him again that i was telling the truth and he had called the un himself to verify.. the cousin said he would call the society to see if this is true but.

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  wannahelp

  Hey Fred,

  I'd like to hear your take on this issue?
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  watchtower and awake??

  by NoLongerAjw in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is there any way to get a subscription to the magazines with out having to go to the hall??

  i would like to see what kinda stuff is in them these days.. just for fun:) an elder came by a few months ago and i asked if i could have a subscription and he said yes he would fill one out when i came to the hall to make a donation.. uugghh no way i am going there.. can anyone help me?

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  I thought I read somewhere on this board a few months back something about the fact that the WTBTS HAD to goto a donation based type system instead of charging like they used to for tax or some other purposes to keep the non-profit status or something like that..

  Well, if you write a letter to the WTBTS asking for "free" subscriptions to their Awake and Watchtower magazines, and they are refused, wouldn't that kinda prove that they are not "free".. They require something, maybe an affiliation with their organization or a "donation"??

  I dunno, not a legal guy.. But to me, free non-profit is free non-profit, and that sounds like a 'string' is attached...
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  UN investigating WTBS for false 1991 application

  by wannahelp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  because the help line is manned by only one person, marylin suggests calling the un directly because she is being inundated by phone calls from both active and inactive witnesses looking for answers that she cannot provide.. please call the un directly with any questions about this topic.. thank you..

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  wannahelp

  Well,

  reguardless of what happens, I'm just hoping that somehow, somewhere the news of a judicial committe being formed by the UN itself investigating the WTBTS for possible fraudulent application to become an NGO status becomes 'news-worthy' all by itself.. Just imagine, without anyone having to say anything to JW's, the JW's will learn that their organization solicited the UN to become an NGO back in 1991, and now the UN is looking at the app, investigating for fraud..

  Hmmm, I would assume that may score some points with R&F JW's, even hard-line JW's??
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  WBTS and NGO - why are they not on the list

  by Jim Dee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.un.org/esa/coordination/ngo/.

  above is the list of ngo's registered with the un as per the un website.. the society are not on the list, are they or arn't they ngo?

  if they are then why are they not on the list.. answers on a postcard please!!.

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  wannahelp

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  What are the Criteria for NGOs to become associated with DPI?"
  Organizations eligible for association with DPI are those which:

  a.) Share the ideals of the UN Charter;

  I guess it depends on your definition of "ideals".. I wonder if they learned from Clinton, or if Clinton learned from them.. Oh, nevermind, Clinton is much younger and less experienced.. I guess Clinton learned from them :-)

  b.) Operate solely on a not-for-profit basis;

  I think this is true?

  c.) Have a demonstrated interest in United Nations issues and proven ability to reach large or specialized audiences, such as educators, media representatives, policy makers and the business community;

  They have a demonstrated interest in UN issues.. They think that everything the UN does is a signal of the "end coming".. That's a demonstrated interest, no?

  d.) Have the commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes about UN activities by publishing newsletters, bulletins, and pamphlets; organizing conferences, seminars and round tables; and enlisting the cooperation of the media.

  See c above... If the 'end is coming' we better tell you about it... We have a committment to tell you about it!!! After all, how can we make a 'non-profit' if we don't publish it, and tell you about it :-)
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  UN investigating WTBS for false 1991 application

  by wannahelp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  because the help line is manned by only one person, marylin suggests calling the un directly because she is being inundated by phone calls from both active and inactive witnesses looking for answers that she cannot provide.. please call the un directly with any questions about this topic.. thank you..

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  wannahelp

  Yeah, but while they are twisting, there may be an opportunity to "show" JWs the 'process of the twist'.. Maybe that will open eyes, seeing first hand how the 'twists' are done... ???
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  UN investigating WTBS for false 1991 application

  by wannahelp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  because the help line is manned by only one person, marylin suggests calling the un directly because she is being inundated by phone calls from both active and inactive witnesses looking for answers that she cannot provide.. please call the un directly with any questions about this topic.. thank you..

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  I'd love to help Mad, but I don't have any material...

  But if anyone on this board is going to do such, I will certainly keep Marylin informed..

  Marylin did mention that she has gotten a few calls from active witnesses recently asking about this very topic.. So, I guess it is starting to cause some questions... I hope it works when I figure out a way to tell my friend and his fiancee about this stuff!!!
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  UN investigating WTBS for false 1991 application

  by wannahelp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  because the help line is manned by only one person, marylin suggests calling the un directly because she is being inundated by phone calls from both active and inactive witnesses looking for answers that she cannot provide.. please call the un directly with any questions about this topic.. thank you..

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  wannahelp

  .. I can see the twist now...

  Satan himself is now attacking the WTBS.. Ignore that we went to bed with him first, lied about it to everyone, and then tried to cover it up.. The important thing is that SATAN himself is now attacking us!!!

  ---- Hehehehehe -------
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  UN investigating WTBS for false 1991 application

  by wannahelp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  because the help line is manned by only one person, marylin suggests calling the un directly because she is being inundated by phone calls from both active and inactive witnesses looking for answers that she cannot provide.. please call the un directly with any questions about this topic.. thank you..

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  wannahelp

  Because the help line is manned by only one person, Marylin suggests calling the UN directly because she is being inundated by phone calls from both active and inactive witnesses looking for answers that she cannot provide.

  Please call the UN directly with any questions about this topic.

  Thank you..
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  annointed, part of this world, war, signs - HELP!

  by concerned fiance in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi, in a continued effort to educate my fiance and open his eyes, i am trying to understand how to refute certain things he has said and get proof of some of the issues that i have read on various threads here over the past week.

  please, please, can people answer back on how i should respond.... 1. in franz's book, he doesn't come out and say that he was one of the annointed, but yet he accepted a position as a member of the gb (my fiance spoke to franz last week and asked him a question regarding being annointed, to which franz answered "well, i had the a heavenly hope that i was annointed.." well, that threw my fiance off and now he doubts whether franz ever truly believed he was annointed.

  i have told him that noone can ever prove if they were annointed, but he says that the annointed "just know, they have that feeling and know without a doubt that they will be in heaven with god and jesus.

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  wannahelp

  There is a help line you can call..

  1-800-WHY-1914

  Ask for Marylin to call you back.. About 9 months ago, when I was trying to help my friend "see the truth" I found this.. Marylin is a great person, an EX-JW who is now a counselor..

  See if he will talk to her (Of course, she is an apostate, but then again, so is Ray Franz)!!!

  If nothing else, you should talk to her, as she can probably help you try and reach him...

  Good luck!!!
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  Prevalence of JW Suicides - Real or Imagined?

  by AMNESIAN in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in one or two recent threads i've seen reference to the possibility of a rising number of jw suicides being another of the organization's very dark realities about which it is vigilant in keeping concealed from its pub populace.

  is there anyone reasonably informed regarding this?

  is there reason to suppose the incidence ratio among jws is any higher than among any peoples/religion?

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  wannahelp

  Makena,

  I'm sorry to hear about your Daughter's suicide..

  I've never been a JW, just met someone that I hired one day and found out he was a JW.. My heart went out to him as I began learning of the "religion" if you can call it that..

  My heart goes out to all JW's past, present, and future who have to endure such internal guilt that would even lead to one contemplating suicide. I do not understand, nor can I pretend to, what JW's go through, but from what I've seen personally with my friend (Who BTW is still a JW, and engaged to get married shortly) I've never felt so sorry for a group of people in my life.. I pray every night that my friend, and all JW's world-wide can wake up and see the bondage they are in, and RUN like the wind the other way!!!!

  I dont' blame any one person, not even the GB, for I think they themselves believe what they are trying to do.. I just believe that your relationship with god is personal, and as soon as you put any kind of organization, religious or otherwise between you and god, you are sacrificing that relationship. (needless to say, I don't have a religious affiliation, other than I'm a Christian!)

  -- Interestingly enough, I've done alot of research into the JW's trying to help my friend, and I believe it was Rutherford that basically said that organized religion was not good.. Rutherford, Ironically proved his own point..

  I believe in god, and I believe that although JW's are not following god, god is kind and merciful. God knows the plight of JW's, and I'm sure he understands that most JW's cannot see the forest through the trees because of their 'mind control'. God knows in their heart they were following god to the best of their abilities, even if they were tricked into following a false god, and because of that I'm sure god has a very special place in heaven for all JW's, especially your daughter.

  Your daughter is at peace with god, and I pray that you have the same peace.

  God bless you!