Apognophos - Yes it was a Watchtower publication... Honestly I do not think it will matter. She is gone. I am actually done with her now. It goes beyond my duty as a child to keep pressing this. The woman is telling people I cheated on my wife and that my DA is because I am too proud to admit it. WHO THE HELL EVEN COMES UP WITH STUFF LIKE THAT. I do not even care if it is some last ditch effort to get me back into her religion. She is done
confusedandalone
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A demon possessed hoime, allegations of infedelity, slander and other cool stuff
by confusedandalone inok so i am sure some of you saw th eletter my mom wrote.
i simply responded with:.
mom,.
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A demon possessed hoime, allegations of infedelity, slander and other cool stuff
by confusedandalone inok so i am sure some of you saw th eletter my mom wrote.
i simply responded with:.
mom,.
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@Witness - Me and the wife decided last night after the lastest round of rumors that she will not be allowed to see the kids period. Nothing good can come of it. She doesn't even deserve to see them. Just because you come out of someone does not mean you are forever indebted to them. Atleast I do not think so. It is officially a wrap for her in regards to this matter. I have no reason to believe that she can keep all this cult attack trash to herself.
@AlphaMan - The only real reason I even post this craziness anymore is because I really do hope that people wondering if this group is for them will read it and realize that they need to get away as fast as possible
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A demon possessed hoime, allegations of infedelity, slander and other cool stuff
by confusedandalone inok so i am sure some of you saw th eletter my mom wrote.
i simply responded with:.
mom,.
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Coma, I honestly believe after some long thought that she may have some form of mental disorder. I think she really believes these stories and I think she really believes the lies she tells people. As a kid she did the samething to people so I guess the fact it is happening to me should not be a surprise.
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A demon possessed hoime, allegations of infedelity, slander and other cool stuff
by confusedandalone inok so i am sure some of you saw th eletter my mom wrote.
i simply responded with:.
mom,.
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confusedandalone
Ok so I am sure some of you saw th eletter my mom wrote. I simply responded with:
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Mom,
As I stated before. My door is always open if the two of you are willing to come to my home and see your grandkids. There is no alternative. As stated in the article listed below necessary family business is allowed by your church. I will continue to live a normal life among normal humans that are not going to judge me at every turn.
Confusedand Alone
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Her response:
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ConfusedandAlone,
I have no intention of reading the apostate info you sent.(How is an article the WATCHTOWER WROTE APOSTATE???? SHE IS SO INDOCTRINATED THAT SHE THINKS ANYTHING I SEND HER IS APOSTATE. Well they are apostates I suppose so go figure) That craziness is why you chose to no longer be a part of Jehovah's organization. It truly saddens us. You blame my spiritual brothers for us obeying what Jehovah says in the scriptures at Matthew
10:35-37.....
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"For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother-in-law. 36 Indeed, a man’s enemies will be persons of his own household. 37 He that has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and he that has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me." Luke 12:51-53 says similar. The bottom line is this is Jehovah's standard. Don't forget that Jesus said at Matthew 25:44-46.....
‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them with the words, ‘Truly I say to you, To the extent that you did not do it to one of these least ones, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, ......Don't you realize what you are doing?!Our grandchildren are dear to us and have a special place in our hearts. They are not responsible for what you have done or the choices you made. What I said about those Jehovah has given to Dad & It doesn't mean we don't want to spend time with our grand-children. It means exactly what we said...., That Jehovah gives us spiritual family members to love. If we show love to each other, that love can grow. For many of us who serve Jehovah, the only real family we have is our spiritual family. We value our spiritual family. Dad & I have not severed the natural affection we have for you or your children. As I've stated many times over, we love you and the kids and our hearts are grieved that you have chosen to leave us. Make no mistake & don't misunderstand, you have left Jehovah & us. We never left you. Also, I think I stated plainly, Dad & I don't want to come into your home to see the kids as long as you are in your present state. If you'd be kind enough to bring the children here or allow them to visit us at <My Sisters Name Removed> that's fine.
Our publications don't vilify worldly people, ConfusedandAlone.(Is she serious) You know that. Their persecution of our brothers is shown for what it is. Even Jesus showed his "brothers & sisters" were those who did his Father's will. I know I have the truth that Jehovah has given us in his word. I have not wasted any of my life dedicated to Jehovah. I'm so sorry that you look at any part of the world and call it normal. There is no such thing as a normal life in this system. We are striving to achieve the "real life". Soon this system will be gone. We know that. We pray for Jehovah's kingdom. When it's manifested here on earth as it is in heaven, all that you are calling normal is going to be done away with.
Dad &I have wonderful memories of you, from birth to adult hood and We're going to hold onto them with the hope that we'll be united again & can add to them. Dad & I again say...humble yourself. Remember the prodigal. Jesus' teaching is the only way for us to live, ConfusedandAlone.
Remember, we do love you and hope you'll return to us.
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Ok so the letter is full of insanity, cult-speak and arrogance and I have pretty much written it off. No more than 20 minutes after getting this letter I get a call from my sister asking me totalk to the kids because my mother has convinced them that demons have taken over my home and it is the reason that I stopped going to the hall and is probably the reason my sister is no longer going.............. My sister knows that is not the case but trying to convince 6 year old kids that grandma lied is another story. What kind of cult does this to people. I now truly believe that my mother is mental. Growing up we always heard weird stories. Like her wedding night the Demons attacked her and my father because of a worldly relative that gave them a gift. The spent the next day destroying or throwing away half the gifts the reciefved because they removed the cards off the boxes before taking them home. She was proud of this story. Apparently sdhe woke up and she could see but could not move. She called out to Jehovah for help and could not hear her own voice.. 10 minutes later of constant calling to Jehovah and the demons stopped... this is seriously the story we always heard.
THen the story of a friend who was attacked by the demons but not a normal one. It was like a small goblin that would throw her around and abuse her. The friend so tired of it every night ripped pages out the bible that had Jehovahs name and spread them on the bed. That night the little demon walks in-between the pages and beats her anyway. AAfter months of this she found a necklace that was under the carpet that belonged to the previous owner... This is a literal story she told us all the time when we brought something home from someone not a witness and everyone at the hall and people believed it. I truly think that she is crazy.
Or maybe the story of the brother at the door who had a doberman set on him by the owner. THe dog got 2 feet from him and feel to the ground drooling and gasping and died... an angel did it.........................
On top of all this, my wife goes to the elders of the old hall to address matters that people (my mother and her pioneer friends) that I cheated on my wife on a business trip and this is the reason I did all this... to hide over the fact that I was unfaithful. WHich is obviously not true because all of our business trips we attend together. Anyway the CoBE says to her, "Your husband is not a JW. Her brought this on himself when he made the decision he made. We discussed this Sis. ConfusedandAlone. The fact of the matter is what they are doing is the same as if the ppioneers were starting rumors about Harry Belafonte or Obama... they are not part of the congregation so what can we do?
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You have got to love this religion. There is no way you can make this shit up. It is as if they truly believe all of this stuff is from GOD and not these 8 fools. I no lonmger really have any feelings over the things happening. My wife is slowly getting there, but she still gets upset over the lies. I just hope some lurkers are reading this stuff. I hope those studying are reading this stuff. People need to know that this religion is literally for people with disorders.
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Victoria Australia, the FDS does not exist (eliciting gasps from the observers).
by confusedandalone incan someone please point me to anywhere that more information regartding this can be found.. i read a smidge about it in another post and would love to see if there is more info.
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Can someone please point me to anywhere that more information regartding this can be found.
I read a smidge about it in another post and would love to see if there is more info
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The Paid Clergy of the WTBTS
by The Searcher indoes the wtbts of transylvania have a paid clergy?.
but do they lie about it and claim otherwise?
here are some of their falsehoods, imitating "the father of the lie" and his deceptive practices, to blind people's minds:.
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TTATTelder I grew up in Newark NJ in the 80s and 90's and our circuit was dirt poor. We had a Circuit Overseer who came and he stressed to all the elders individually that he would like a new coat very badly. So our body of elders took a collection and got the rest out of congo funds and bought him a nice warm winter coat. When presented with the coat he said that he did not want iot because HE ONLY WEARS LEATHEEEEEEEEER...............................................
The idiots actually returned it, got more money and bought him a leather one. That same CO is now a District Overseer... I wish we could use names on this board so bad.
I bet he could have done that in any congregation in the circuit full of poor working class people and the outcome would have been the same
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How the WT would look if written in 1st person: SO DISGUSTING
by Antioch inhow would the watchtower of july 15th read if the watchtower was written in 1st person from the ones allegedly preparing an dispensing spiritual food (ie the watchtower)?
why is it written by a faceless 3rd person telling readers what to think about the people who are allegedly dispensing the very material i'm reading?
i was reading the july 15th article and laughed at the ridiculousness of it all.. .
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GOD DAMN... seriously I would have never thought to do this.
THis is literally one of the most terrifyingly convincing posts I have ever read ever on the internet
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Florida man shoots teen
by designs inmichael dunn pulled into a convenience store parking lot next to a suv full of teenagers who were playing loud music.
he asked the teens to turn down the music, it is uncertain what words were exchanged at that point.
michael dunn then shot 4 times into the driver's side of the suv.
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I live in Florida... Wesley Chapel to be exact...
the theater shooting happened at the theater I take my wife and kids to. THe Cobb theater.
the Zimmerman shooting took place about 40 minutes from me in an area where my sister inlaw lives
this shooting took place in Jacksonville, where some of my wifes other relatives live and we were there for a reunion 2 years ago.
Florida seems to be a hub for the Stnad you Ground law killings and honestly it is scary. The existence of the law makes people think as soon as they feel threatened they SHOULD shoot. As we know some people are threatened by the mere existence of other people, so this law is going to really cause some far more severe things to start happening.
If you are at a public place and idiots are blasting music why even bother provoking them. You will be there for 3 to 5 minutes then leave. Why would you do this? Because you know that as soon as you have a reason you can kill. He said he thought he son a gun in the car. However the police found no gun.
"Dunn's fiancee, Rhonda Rouer, earlier testified that she and Dunn had been drinking at the Thanksgiving weekend wedding of Dunn's son, Chris, before the shooting, with Dunn drinking several rum and cokes."
SO now we know he was drinking heavily as well.
"I hate that thug music,'' Dunn said to her before she entered the gas station to buy wine and potato chips, Rouer testified."
So he doiesn't like the type of music being played. Gets
" The pair left the scene of the shooting and returned to their hotel, where Dunn ordered pizza and they had more rum and cokes, Rouer said."
So obviously he thought what he did had no reason to be reported. WOW
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"The entry point and path of the bullet that killed Davis made it unlikely the youth was standing outside the SUV when he was shot, according to medical examiner Stacey Simons. That testimony appeared to counter defense attorney Cory Strolla's claim that Davis had threatened Dunn.
Davis likely died moments after the shooting. A toxicology expert said Davis had no signs of drugs or alcohol in his body."
So you fire into a car and shoot people who you THINK have a shotgun. THis is not a responsible gun owner
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Bill Nye/Ken Ham Creation-Evolution Debate Here: V
by mind blown in.
in case some are interested and can't find it...... http://debatelive.org.
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Bill: "But there are trees older than you think the earth is..."
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Bill Nye/Ken Ham Creation-Evolution Debate Here: V
by mind blown in.
in case some are interested and can't find it...... http://debatelive.org.
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confusedandalone
The debate took place in kentucky... one of the most ass backward states in america. When Ham tried to make a joke everyone would laugh and some would clap. When nye did the same thing it was near silence with the exception of the few 20 some things in the audience. The majority were there it seemed to cheer on Ham