Posts by EdenOne

uncensored discussions and information for anyone interested in the advocates for awareness of watchtower abuses or 'aawa' http://aawa.co/ (previously known as "the association of anti-watchtower activists http://jwactivists.org/) and how it's handled and responded to privacy issues and put people at risk:.

aawa is here!!

(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?

EdenOne

do they T-Shirts sell with sales tax?

Eden

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The Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses (AAWA) [WARNING]

by Simon in

uncensored discussions and information for anyone interested in the advocates for awareness of watchtower abuses or 'aawa' http://aawa.co/ (previously known as "the association of anti-watchtower activists http://jwactivists.org/) and how it's handled and responded to privacy issues and put people at risk:.

aawa is here!!

(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?

EdenOne

And yet, there's something iffy about their priorities:

"Shortly after AAWA’s launch, it became apparent that our name might not be conveying our message to the mainstream media as effectively as we had intended."

What is their priority? Helping those who are leaving, the ex-JW, the faders, or feeding information to the press for media warfare against the Watchtower?

Eden

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The Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses (AAWA) [WARNING]

by Simon in

uncensored discussions and information for anyone interested in the advocates for awareness of watchtower abuses or 'aawa' http://aawa.co/ (previously known as "the association of anti-watchtower activists http://jwactivists.org/) and how it's handled and responded to privacy issues and put people at risk:.

aawa is here!!

(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?

EdenOne

And the much needed apology:

"We are also mindful of several individuals who suffered distress on April 3 when they were added to our group against their will. We should have handled matters differently. We therefore offer our most sincere and unreserved apologies to all of these ones, and any others who were in any way harmed through being added to our Facebook group without their consent. In hindsight, we wish this decision had been made earlier. It is hoped that by taking this step now we we will go some way towards reassuring the Ex-JW community that we are very serious about our responsibility to safeguard people’s privacy "

It's very positive that they apologize and resolve the Facebook fiasco. Too little too late, perhaps? Time will tell.

Eden

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The Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses (AAWA) [WARNING]

by Simon in

uncensored discussions and information for anyone interested in the advocates for awareness of watchtower abuses or 'aawa' http://aawa.co/ (previously known as "the association of anti-watchtower activists http://jwactivists.org/) and how it's handled and responded to privacy issues and put people at risk:.

aawa is here!!

(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?

EdenOne

At least now they aknowledge this:

"on our launch day (April 3), a significant number of individuals from the Ex-JW community were added to AAWA’s Facebook group both by administrators and group members without their consent".

It's never too late to admit to a serious lack of good judgement.

Eden

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The Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses (AAWA) [WARNING]

by Simon in

uncensored discussions and information for anyone interested in the advocates for awareness of watchtower abuses or 'aawa' http://aawa.co/ (previously known as "the association of anti-watchtower activists http://jwactivists.org/) and how it's handled and responded to privacy issues and put people at risk:.

aawa is here!!

(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?

EdenOne

Much better name.

At long last.

Eden

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BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.....let's rebuild!

by Terry in

okay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.

i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.

because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.

EdenOne

Until we see the outcome of AAWA, I advise against this idea, because the risk of forming a JWN "AAWA" that will be antagonic to the original AAWA will be very high. Wait till the dust settles, guys.

Eden

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Signs - Jesus - Has the Scripture Been Misread ?

by *lost* in

meletivivlon.com - interesting and enlightening theory on jesus and the signs.. wars, earthquakes, food shortages.. what if jesus meant the very opposite ?

jesus said - look out that nobody misleads you.

( jesus warning us as a safegaurd for us not to be mislead about exactly when the time would come ) .

EdenOne

BotH

I'm sure that the prophecy of Jesus in Matthew 24:4-14 had a fulfillment in the first century. It wouldn't make sense if it hadn't. Josephus' writings confirm that there were earthquakes, false christs, etc, as part of the events leading to the tragedy in 70 CE.

However, Jesus' words had also a greater fulfillment in the future, because:

a) When he said to his disciples " But he responded, "Do you see all these buildings? I tell you the truth, they will be completely demolished. Not one stone will be left on top of another!"(Matthew 24:2) When tourists visit the Old City of Jerusalem these days, one of the main attractions is the Wailing Wall (Kotel), which is a remnant of the ancient wall that surrounded the Jewish Temple 's courtyard. Since Jesus said "NOT ONE STONE WILL BE LEFT ON TOP OF ANOTHER", it seems rather odd that this wall made up of enormous stones, possibly the very stones that the disciples pointed out to Jesus in Matthews 24:1, is still standing. Therefore, one must conclude that Jesus' prophecy hasn't reached its entire fulfillment yet.

b) Matthew 24:22: " In fact, unless that time of calamity is shortened, not a single person will survive. But it will be shortened for the sake of God's chosen ones." The intensity of the calamity spoken of here, where all life would face potential extinction, (not just the jews sieged in Jerusalem) cannot apply to the calamity in 70 CE. Only in modern times is there the potential risk to wipe out all life on earth. Besides, if the Christians had fled Jerusalem after the first siege by Cestius Gallus in 66 CE, they wouldn't be present in Jerusalem by 70 CE; the "calamity" wouldn't need to be 'shortened for the sake of God's chosen ones', because they wouldn't be trapped by Titus' siege. But if we're talking about a global tribulation that would require shortening because of the 'chosen ones', this means that they would find themselves amidst the tribulation. How? Because the tribulation is global and they live in this world.

c) Matthew 24:30 - " Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory." - There's no record that such 'sign of the Son of Man' was ever produced in the first century, nor that 'all the peoples of the earth mourn' upon seeing the second coming of Christ. Surely this is still for the future.

d) Matthew 24:32, 33 - "Now learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branches bud and its leaves begin to sprout, you know that summer is near. Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door." This is key. Earlier on his journey to jerusalem, Jesus had put a curse on a barren fig tree, that withered. (Matthew 21:19; Mark 11:13, 14, 20) Now Jesus recalled that incident to the mind of his disciples. 'Learn a lesson from the fig tree'. What lesson? Fig trees were used as symbols of the nation of Israel. (Hosea 9:10; Jeremiah 24:1-10; Luke 13:6-9). The barren fig tree that was cursed was a symbol of the Jewish nation being rejected for their spiritual barreness and for rejecting the Messiah. So now Jesus reminds that incident to his disciples and says: 'When the fig tree branches reblossom, these things are about to start happening'. Now, the Jewish nation was rejected in 70 CE - the symbolic withering of the fig tree. Therefore, the reblossoming of the fig tree cannot be the birth of the "Spiritual Israel" in Pentecost 33 CE, because "all these things" would happen AFTER the symbolic reblossoming of the fig tree. Therefore, it refers to events that would happen in the distant future.

Eden

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WAAWAW - Watching AAWA's Website

by UsuaIusern@me in

as on now the awaa website is down for maintenance.

is was meant to be out for 48hrs.

it was down over 72 hrs ago and promises to be up in a further 12. .

EdenOne

ohhhh ahhhhhh

There's a NEW "maintenance" page. They have done away with the Lego men ... I guess they were expensive labor.

The explanation given is: " Sorry for the inconvenience. Our website is currently undergoing scheduled maintenance and security upgrades."

A new countdown clock as well ... currently set to 1 day and 4 hours

Scheduled maintenance? Was this scheduled?? LOL

Anyway ....

Eden