Posts by Longlivetherenegades

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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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@ joao to simply apply their own standards of judging others will lead to their own detriment.

1. What makes a religion right is its total adherence to God’s Word. Whether our religion meets this criterion or not can only be determined by open-mindedly comparing it with the Bible.... Awake 1984

Jehovah’s witnesses cannot afford to be open minded. It goes against the set up of obeying and following directions that doesn't make sense from human point of view

2. Certainly such an important matter as our worship of God should not be determined for us by the coincidence of where we were born.....Awake 1984

Does not apply within the realms of authority of the GB.

3. After all, the child born to Catholic parents has had no more control over this fact than the child born to Muslim parents controls that..... Awake 1984

I still wonder why the writer of this article cannot use JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES in the place of Muslims since their arch enemy is the Catholic. Why?

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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

Longlivetherenegades

@ Fisherman

However, when the fulfillment of our expectations appears to be delayed, it may dampen our enthusiasm. We could even lose heart. (Prov. 13:12) This happened at the beginning of the 20th century. At that time, many anointed Christians expected to receive their heavenly reward in 1914. When that did not happen, how did faithful ones deal with their delayed expectations?... Watchtower August 2019 study article 31 paragraph 9

Where did the scripture or Bible ever states the anointed one will receive reward in 1914?

Who promised such a reward in 1914?

Who made the anointed one be in expectation in 1914?

Yet Jesus returned in 1914 spiritually 😂😂😂😂

In fact the remnant of the anointed according to WTBTS still remaining on the earth were not cleaned or free from babylon the great until until 1919.

and according to Vander......

This was in 1927. In that year the witnesses understood that the dead spiritual Israelites had been raised in 1918 to life in heaven with Christ Jesus. It was an invisible resurrection, of course." From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained p.192

I see Fraud

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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

Longlivetherenegades

That the last days in Acts 2:17 is different from 2 Timothy 3:1😂😂😂😂😂😂

That they cannot see the TAUTOLOGY in MINISTERIAL SERVANT despite their arrogant theological scholarship 😂😂😂

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3 years in the making

by Judgerussellford in

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friends

thursday while i was at work, a new elder stopped by the house (almost 3 years after fading) to encourage us to go back to meetings.

said everyone misses us.

if you did, why not stop by and say hi every now and then?

Longlivetherenegades

@ Judgerusellford

Do well to get us a recording of your conversation with them. It might be of use or one to listen to.

Regarding DA

It all boils down to personal decision as it suits the circumstances and situation.

Were you a slave when you were called? Don't let it trouble you--although if you can gain your freedom, do so.(even by DA).

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For he who was a slave when he was called by the Lord is the Lord's freedman; similarly, he who was a free man when he was called is Christ's slave.

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You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men.(even by DA)

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Brothers, each man, as responsible to God, should remain in the situation God called him to.(even by DA)

Since they see DA and DF as same I rather let them remain in their judgemental mindset of grouping DA as those who they states in their manuals.......

"Of course, contact should not be made with active apostates, with those who are trying to lead others into sin, or with those who have made it known that they want nothing to do with the Christian congregation."

After all...... Whoever exercises faith in him is not to be judged. Whoever does not exercise faith has been judged already, because he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.

What right do they have to call others

1. Those who lead others to sin?

2. Apostates?

3. Those who have nothing to do with the Christian congregation?

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2022-07-29-Announcement!

by Atlantis in

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2022-07-29-announcements--english.

2022-07-29-announcements-spanishpage 2, par.

3. on the other hand, some brothers and sisters—younger and in good health—have more favorable circumstances that may allow them to attend christian meetings regularly at the kingdom hall.

Longlivetherenegades

From the letter...... Can I put forth greater effort to worship Jehovah in person?

When members are sitting in the comfort of their homes and connect to the meetings it is not ENOUGH effort to be seen as worshipping Jehovah in person. That person must attend the KINGDOM HALLS as confirmation that they are indeed worshipping God in person.

LEGALISM at its best.

Jesus words in John 4. holds no meaning here :Jesus said to her: “Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father.

Cheers once again Atlantis

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Do you think the brothers who wrote watchtower articles are living in real world?

by Longlivetherenegades in

do you think the brothers who wrote watchtower articles are living in real world?........

david splane........ powerful by faith convention 2021 video.

please i got an excerpt of this from another video but the response by david splane is not included.

Longlivetherenegades

I want to believe it is the apostate rant video by David Splane. Is this correct or it is just one of his other video for the convention?

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Do you think the brothers who wrote watchtower articles are living in real world?

by Longlivetherenegades in

do you think the brothers who wrote watchtower articles are living in real world?........

david splane........ powerful by faith convention 2021 video.

please i got an excerpt of this from another video but the response by david splane is not included.

Longlivetherenegades

Thanks for the responses so far. My point of view is not different too. Still willing to see that video.

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Do you think the brothers who wrote watchtower articles are living in real world?

by Longlivetherenegades in

do you think the brothers who wrote watchtower articles are living in real world?........

david splane........ powerful by faith convention 2021 video.

please i got an excerpt of this from another video but the response by david splane is not included.

Longlivetherenegades

Do you think the brothers who wrote watchtower articles are living in real world?........ David Splane........ Powerful by faith convention 2021 video

Please I got an excerpt of this from another video but the response by David Splane is not included. I want help regarding the particular video in terms of downloading it and then know his response to the question he raised.

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New Light, New Light!

by BoogerMan in

more accurately known as a reversal of a long held 'truth.'.

september 2022 study watchtower - par.

14 p. 18 - "in the past, we understood jesus’ words to refer to the deeds the resurrected ones will practice after their resurrection; that is, some will come to life and practice good things while others will come to life and practice vile things.

Longlivetherenegades

The doctrinal change is laughable.

Issue 1 from the article: In the past, we understood

Who are the WE?

1. The Governing body of Jehovah's.

2. The members who are going to PARROT what they didn't understand in the first place.

Issue 2 from the article: That makes sense, does it not?

Nothing really make sense in the first place. The members only have to obey and get indoctrinated. After all

1. even those teachings and directions that does not make sense are meant to be obeyed and adhered to.

2. The members never had the opportunity or say in doing or deciding what makes sense or not.

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Should a Christian celebrate Christmas?

by Samsie in

hello, i'm new here and have woken up to the real truth concerning the org.

i'm sort of fading away at the moment.... i need help with something, i used to as a child celebrate christmas and have always had amazing memories of it (my husband hasn't as he was born into the org) but i gave it up when i learnt the "truth".

my interest was only in pleasing god and still is.

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Colossians 2:16- 19 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. 18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind. 19 They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.

Question..........

1. Please will celebrating someone who brought you salvation from sin and death cause you to lose your CONNECTION WITH THE HEAD?

2. Paul had a warning for those Such a person or persons who go into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with IDLE NOTIONS by their UNSPIRITUAL MIND.

What does idle notions mean?

1 unemployed or unoccupied; inactive

2 not operating or being used

3 (of money) not being used to earn interest or dividends

4 not wanting to work; lazy

5 usually prenominal frivolous or trivial
idle pleasures

6 ineffective or powerless; fruitless; vain

7 without basis; unfounded

a. What is active about those pagan celebrations associated with the celebrations of Christmas in recent times?

b. How many people do you see get themselves occupied or employed with those pagan celebrations?

c. Has Paul not said those things celebrated or done to idols ineffective, powerless, or vain?

1 Corinthians 8 Now about food sacrificed to idols: We know that “We all possess knowledge.” But knowledge puffs up while love builds up. 2 Those who think they know something do not yet know as they ought to know. 3 But whoever loves God is known by God.

4 So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that “An idol is nothing at all in the world” and that “There is no God but one.” 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), 6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

What is the pagan celebration in a person saying in his own heart, mind and soul that there his one Lord - - - - - Jesus Christ and choose to celebrate on a day that coincides with the day a particular IDOL which is vain, ineffective and unemployed in the heart, mind and soul of this person is equally celebrated?