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for a christian, only the moral commandments of the old testament are binding (as they cannot change), but the various liturgical, social, and other so-called casuistic laws no longer apply to them.
this includes dietary habits, such as the prohibition of pork or fat, as well as the prohibition of blood.. take a look at the following verses: mt 15:11, mk 7:15-19, acts 11:7-9, 1 tim 4:3-5.. the jehovah's witnesses say that, yes, but in the acts of the apostles (15) the consumption of blood, idol meat, and strangled animals is also prohibited, meaning the new testament still forbids it.
for catholics, the council of florence settled this issue, stating that this apostolic regulation was only a temporary measure to facilitate agreement between jews and gentiles in the early church.
"I almost get the impression you believe the meaning is entirely subjective, in which case, there would be nothing to discuss."
It is completely subjective, TD. Understanding the Bible is subject to Jehovah's understanding, Jehovah's viewpoint, Jehovah's holy spirit.
If I want to understand a verse, I don't ask a scholar. I don't research on a website. I ask Jehovah.
"Keep on asking, and it will be given you; keep on seeking, and you will find; keep on knocking, and it will be opened to you; for everyone asking receives, and everyone seeking finds, and to everyone knocking, it will be opened."
"There he found some disciples and said to them: “Did you receive holy spirit when you became believers?” They replied to him: “Why, we have never heard that there is a holy spirit.""
"At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved. All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son is willing to reveal him."
"Moreover, if you call out for understanding
And raise your voice for discernment;
If you keep seeking for it as for silver,
And you keep searching for it as for hidden treasures;
Then you will understand the fear of Jehovah,
And you will find the knowledge of God.
For Jehovah himself gives wisdom;
From his mouth come knowledge and discernment."
"Therefore, subject yourselves to God..."
It is entirely subjective.😊
for a christian, only the moral commandments of the old testament are binding (as they cannot change), but the various liturgical, social, and other so-called casuistic laws no longer apply to them.
this includes dietary habits, such as the prohibition of pork or fat, as well as the prohibition of blood.. take a look at the following verses: mt 15:11, mk 7:15-19, acts 11:7-9, 1 tim 4:3-5.. the jehovah's witnesses say that, yes, but in the acts of the apostles (15) the consumption of blood, idol meat, and strangled animals is also prohibited, meaning the new testament still forbids it.
for catholics, the council of florence settled this issue, stating that this apostolic regulation was only a temporary measure to facilitate agreement between jews and gentiles in the early church.
@TD, I bet you must hate the Pidgin Bible translation...
Acts 15:20
"Instead, make we write to dem, con tell dem sey make dem komot hand from food wey pipo give to idols, from anyhow-sex, or di meat of animals wey dem choke, and from blood."
https://pidginbible.com/2022/06/18/acts-chapter-15/
Or how about this one...
"...but instead, make wi rite leta go give dem sey, make dem nor chop food wey dem sakrifice give juju and make dem nor sleep with who dem nor marry, animal wey dem kill and di blood nor tosh groun, make dem nor chop or drink en blood."
https://www.bible.com/bible/2516/ACT.15.PCM
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(I ain't as concerned 'bout grammar as I am about substance.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJr9SSJKkII
Jehovah's personality hasn't changed. Since the beginning, He has made clear how He feels about blood and those who disrespect it, whether that disrespect is shown by those who murder others (as in Cain's case) or by those who show a lack of concern for safety (as in the one who fails to put a parapet around the roof) or by those who fail to protect the sheep. "I will ask back their blood."
Blood is sacred. It doesn't matter whether you "say it" with proper grammar or not. The message is the same.
"Abstain from blood."
so after being rudely awakened by a cat fight outside (it's 3am here in the uk) and then proceeding to go outside to rescue my cats from the neighbourhood tom....... i'm now laying wide awake trying to make sense of jw "truth".
(it's all my mind does these days, the lights gone on and won't turn off).
anyway i found myself reading about the gb and came across these fellows , greenlees, chapman and chitty.
Haha! 😆
I am not "bonkers", as you will realize when Jehovah tears down the WTBT$ shortly.
Acts 26:25
"But Paul said: “I am not going out of my mind, Your Excellency Festus, but I am speaking words of truth and of a sound mind.""
Take a look ahead, @stanlivedeath - the WTBT$ is about to fall because of all the Greenlees/Chapman/Chitty types (and all the false doctrines). Jehovah's made an accounting with them. That org will be cut off while it's still alive, that everyone may know they were not representing Jehovah.
https://www.westernmassnews.com/2023/09/01/jehovah-witness-elder-sentenced-jail-child-sexual-abuse-case/?outputtype=amp.
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Ewwwwww!!!😝
Isn't it interesting that in the recently leaked elder "training" video, the morally upright elder was deleted from being an elder for wanting his kids to be educated, but then the Service Department wants to appoint elders who have a record of rape and sodomy?
"By their fruits you will recognize them."
in the sermon on the mount, jesus foretold that earthquakes “in one place after another” would be part of the sign of the last days clímaxing in the great tribulation.. what could jesus possibly have meant?
using a phone app nowadays, there are earthquakes detected in one place after another but is this what jesus meant and did they have so many earthquakes throughout the centuries affter his prophecy or are these modern day detected earthquakes unique to this epoch?
how can we be sure unequivocally that modern day earthquakes are part of the sign fulfilling bible prophecy?.
https://www.westernmassnews.com/2023/09/01/jehovah-witness-elder-sentenced-jail-child-sexual-abuse-case/?outputtype=amp.
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"there is NO HOLY SPIRIT directing these men."
As is (ironically) depicted in their own video...
The "spirit" behind the hypocritical WTBT$ religious leaders is the same spirit portrayed in the Rolling Stones song, "Sympathy for the Devil"...
"Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long years
Stole million man's soul an faith
And I was 'round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game
Stuck around St. Petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a change
Killed Tsar and his ministers
Anastasia screamed in vain
I rode a tank
Held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name, oh yeah
Ah, what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah
I watched with glee
While your kings and queens
Fought for ten decades
For the gods they made
I shouted out
Who killed the Kennedys?
When after all
It was you and me
Let me please introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
And I laid traps for troubadours
Who get killed before they reached Bombay
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah, get down, baby
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah
But what's confusing you
Is just the nature of my game
Just as every cop is a criminal
And all the sinners saints
As heads is tails
Just call me Lucifer
'Cause I'm in need of some restraint
So if you meet me
Have some courtesy
Have some sympathy, and some taste
Use all your well-learned politnesse
Or I'll lay your soul to waste, mm yeah
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, mm yeah
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, mm mean it, get down
Woo, who
Oh yeah, get on down
Oh yeah
Aah yeah
Tell me baby, what's my name?
Tell me honey, can ya guess my name?
Tell me baby, what's my name?
I tell you one time, you're to blame
What's my name
Tell me, baby, what's my name?
Tell me, sweetie, what's my name?"
They follow their father. They are wolves in sheep's covering. They will be completely exposed. Their end will be according to their works.
Matthew 7:15-21
"Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men.
“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’"
https://www.westernmassnews.com/2023/09/01/jehovah-witness-elder-sentenced-jail-child-sexual-abuse-case/?outputtype=amp.
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"do they really think that “repentance” actually wipes the slate clean, and/or immunizes against backsliding?"
How could they believe in "repentance" for something they don't think is a "sin"? Their actions show they don't think it is a sin. That's why they don't apologize to victims and that's why they hide their records. They haven't "repented". Why would they expect the other abusers to "repent"? They don't know what it means.
The only "sin" they believe in is the "sin" of speaking out against their WTBT$/GB/FD$/Bethel/Elderworship authority when they are wrong. (Which isn't really a sin at all, but rather is evidence of a person who keeps integrity...)
That is why God will give them (WTBT$/GB/FD$/Bethel/Elders) all into the hands of the secular authorities shortly and all their stuff (studios, real estate, prominence, etc) will be taken away.
Whatever secular legal group decides to take the lead in attacking the WTBT$ will be successful, in the same way Cyrus was. Jehovah will leave open the doors for them.
https://www.westernmassnews.com/2023/09/01/jehovah-witness-elder-sentenced-jail-child-sexual-abuse-case/?outputtype=amp.
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"Both the state and the WTBTS are to blame here"
Yes.
Ecclesiastes 8:9-11
"All of this I have seen, and I applied my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, during the time that man has dominated man to his harm...Because sentence against a bad deed has not been executed speedily, the heart of men becomes emboldened to do bad."
God's Kingdom is coming and it will set all things right at the appointed time. The religious hypocrites will be removed and their organizations destroyed. The Bible shows that then 3 1/2 years later the state secular hypocrites will be destroyed.
Psalm 37:10-13
"Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more;
You will look at where they were,
And they will not be there.
But the meek will possess the earth,
And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.
The wicked man plots against the righteous;
He grinds his teeth at him.
But Jehovah will laugh at him,
For He knows that his day will come."
3 1/2 years isn't long compared to all the time it took for us to get to this point as a human race. 3 1/2 years isn't long compared to everlasting life. As the expression goes, "there is light at the end of the tunnel."
i googles about self-deception and found many articles about it.
it is a thing reseachers in psychology have studied.. here is a quote from an article that describes it.
and it is interesting because of so many ideas about how to understand the bible.
"this phenomenon"
"those who fool themselves."
"The more intelligent a person is, the more sophisticated he or she is in the art of self-deception"
https://youtu.be/gUUkhwaWP68?si=d8I3kXljbNdyc7Ec
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