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Where Does Watchtower Doctrine Contradict Scripture?

by Vanderhoven7 in

here are some areas that i have found:.

not only is watchtower eschatology offbase, which is not critical, but so is watchtower soteriology … which is critical.

the bible says not to put trust in men who cannot save.

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I think you know the answer.🙂

Milk is not blood.

Blood is the stuff in your veins and arteries.

Everything in the physical universe is made up of elements, atoms, molecules, etc. They move around and an atom of hydrogen that is part of a water molecule today may be part of blood tomorrow. The cells in your marriage mate today may be part of a different person years from now. Does that mean it's okay to have relations with that other person? Nope.

Kevin McFree might reuse some of his Legos for different scenes, but the discerning viewer knows the difference between a Wolf Elder Lego character and the Brian With A Beard character.

God knows it's possible to take blood and put it in a centrifuge and separate things out, etc, but just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it. You can drink water from the public toilet if you want, but I wouldn't recommend it.

In ancient times, the requirement was to bury your feces and pour the blood back to the ground. In this culture now, we flush the feces away. Wonderful. The basic idea is still to protect people from getting sick. What's the deal with blood? If you do a blood test and then throw the blood away after, great. But to save it, separate it, sell it, stick it back in someone is obviously not "abstaining from blood." It's directly disobeying a clear command.

If the same types of cells are in milk, who cares? God said it's okay to drink milk. "The land of milk and honey." God knows the same types of cells are in a lot of things.

"Now the serpent was the most cautious of all the wild animals of the field that Jehovah God had made. So it said to the woman: “Did God really say that you must not eat from every tree of the garden?” At this the woman said to the serpent: “We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden. But God has said about the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden: ‘You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it; otherwise you will die.’” At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die. For God knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad.” Consequently, the woman saw that the tree was good for food and that it was something desirable to the eyes, yes, the tree was pleasing to look at. So she began taking of its fruit and eating it. Afterward, she also gave some to her husband when he was with her, and he began eating it."

It didn't go well for Adam and Eve when they disobeyed a clear command. "You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it" was clear. Even a fraction of that tree was off limits.

Adam and Eve just ate from a fraction of the tree. And look where we are today.

Jehovah's fixing it, but it's through the ransom blood of the Christ. We must show respect for that blood. The way we show respect is by respecting God's right to set boundaries. He set a boundary on blood. It doesn't matter if there are some of the same types of cells in blood as in milk. There were some of the same types of cells in that one tree in the garden as the other trees in the garden. It was the attitude and obedience that Jehovah was looking for, it was a way they could show love and respect for Him, and trust.

The GB/FDS doesn't trust Jehovah, so it's no surprise they would be misleading others into disobeying Jehovah. The snake did the same thing.

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Dubtown (kevin McFree) - A JW Parody on Youtube done with Legos

by Acluetofindtheuser in

has anyone ever come across the youtube channel that uses legos through stop motion animation to make fun of the witnesses?.

it's called dubtown but the channel is under the name kevin mcfree.

the creator sounds british.

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Philip Brumley going after "Kevin McFree" was just like Saul going after David or Haman going after Mordecai.

Jehovah made sure everybody saw. It's the same thing that's going to happen with all the nastiness the GB/FDS/WolfElders are doing, chasing after so-called "apostates" in "the name of God". Those guys doing the chasing will be exposed.

Jehovah allows the obstinate GB/Pharoah-types enough time to prove how obstinate they are. "Let my people go..." Just like with the disfellowshipping thing - the borg could just let it go - but no, they have to be obstinate. Jehovah's going to "plague" those GB/Pharoah-types/WolfElders by having their JWborgRealEstate/FinancialHoldings/Wealth completely stripped just like it says in Revelation, and then everybody will know that the GB/FDS/WolfElders do not represent God.

(I love the music "Kevin McFree" weaves into the episodes. "I'm wide awake, I'm wide awake..." I also like how he shares scriptures that show the hypocrisy of the borg.)

Jesus said we should keep awake and keep on the watch. The borg leadership is completely asleep as to what is coming for them at the beginning of the GT.

"However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among you. These will quietly bring in destructive sects, and they will even disown the owner who bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves. Furthermore, many will follow their brazen conduct, and because of them the way of the truth will be spoken of abusively. Also, they will greedily exploit you with counterfeit words. But their judgment, decided long ago, is not moving slowly, and their destruction is not sleeping." (2 Peter 2:1-3)

God's judgment on the borg isn't sleeping. Whenever they (false religionists) are saying "peace and security", they'll get a rude awakening. It's soon.

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A Press Conference of Hate: False Accusations of Sexual Abuse Against the Jehovah’s Witnesses 7~24~23

by Tahoe in

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https://bitterwinter.org/a-press-conference-of-hate-false-accusations-of-sexual-abuse-against-the-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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That Massimo guy makes me sick. There are all these victims of abuse, and instead of comforting them, Massimo goes and writes an article attempting to bash and discredit them in order to hurt them even more. He uses foolish sounding sentences in his writing style - it's like he has a list of high-sounding vocabulary words and just inserts one every third or fourth word and hopes it all sounds fancy enough to impress somebody. The WTBT$ shuns people for telling the truth and then hires that guy and puts his video on the JWborg website as if he's some kind of truth-guru, when he's such a slimy faker. Yuck!

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Where Does Watchtower Doctrine Contradict Scripture?

by Vanderhoven7 in

here are some areas that i have found:.

not only is watchtower eschatology offbase, which is not critical, but so is watchtower soteriology … which is critical.

the bible says not to put trust in men who cannot save.

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Another place WTBTS contradicts scripture...

"abstain from what is strangled and from blood"

A fraction of blood is still blood.

The first century Jerusalem congregation and elders and apostles didn't make up rules about pioneering or counting time or shaving beards or demanding support for a Bethel commune; but they did make clear the holy spirit's direction regarding abstaining from both things strangled and from blood. The fact that blood is mentioned in these two different ways here shows how important it is to Jehovah. For the GB/FDS to say "fractions are okay" when God clearly condemns them is blatant disrespect for Jehovah God and the ransom blood of the Christ.

"Therefore, my decision is not to trouble those from the nations who are turning to God, but to write them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from what is strangled, and from blood." (Acts 15:19,20)

"As for the believers from among the nations, we have sent them our decision in writing that they should keep away from what is sacrificed to idols as well as from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality." (Acts 21:25)

Sexual immorality is not a "conscience matter". Idolatry is not a "conscience matter". Abstaining from blood is not a "conscience matter". The GB/FDS have led a lot of people to unwittingly sin against God.

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A SHADOW to NONE

by Terry in

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be a shadow to nonethis world’s gone all wobbly and doubly unshackledwe’re tackled by circumstance, brought to our kneesfinancial hardship, a test of all friendshipcrash and corruption; it’s death and diseasewho is our neighbor and where are our leaders?the lord of the flies may arise to the thronethough life packs a wallop a dollop of courageand brotherhood binds us; we’re not here alone+++out of the shadow we stand in the sunbackbone and muscle: we’re not yet undonebring on apocalypse you won’t see us runand we’ll be a shadow to noneno, we’ll be a shadow to none+++ buzzards and bastards, they circle disasters rats skitter scatter the old sinking shipit’s backbone bravado with faith as our mottothat binds us, reminds us: take aim, let her ripgoodness and decency stumbled and crumbledgreed is the creed of malevolent mennow is the time to remind one anotheryou are my brother, yes you are my friend+++out of the shadow we stand in the sunbackbone and muscle we’re not yet undonebring on apocalypse you won’t see us runand we'll be a shadow to noneno - we'll be a shadow to nonemy brother, we’re not yet undone+++a song i haven't bothered to finish :)

john farnham might be a good choice for singer

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🙂💖

I love it, Terry, thank you for sharing🫶🌷

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Dubtown (kevin McFree) - A JW Parody on Youtube done with Legos

by Acluetofindtheuser in

has anyone ever come across the youtube channel that uses legos through stop motion animation to make fun of the witnesses?.

it's called dubtown but the channel is under the name kevin mcfree.

the creator sounds british.

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These are my three favorites🙂💖...

The Six Degrees of Shunning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO_j2vUrBm0

Dubtown Radio - Jehovah's Witnesses Never Shun Family

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2yC79CMOlU

The Covert Op - Secret Recording of Elders Meeting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOE3AbgHaVU

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A Press Conference of Hate: False Accusations of Sexual Abuse Against the Jehovah’s Witnesses 7~24~23

by Tahoe in

jw
friends

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https://bitterwinter.org/a-press-conference-of-hate-false-accusations-of-sexual-abuse-against-the-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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Massimo Introvigne will never win a math competition.

Why the borg would get involved with a vampire loving con man is no mystery. Flirting with spiritists is a favorite pasttime of "Jezebel" types like the GB, and so many of those head guys at Bethel love to play pattyfingers with pyramidology or numerology or biolas or other things Jehovah hates.

It's also not a mystery that the borg can't do math for beans. The 1914 doctrine doesn't add up. Not surprising this Massimo guy actually ends up proving himself to be a liar in his own article.

He claims the problem of abuse in JWs isn't nearly as bad as in the Catholic church and then he gives a bunch of numbers regarding Australia.

The thing is, the numbers he provides prove the very point he is trying to refute.

(I am not a mathematician, so please check my work and let me know if I did these calculations wrong...)

He says "the Royal Commission mentioned 4,444 claims against the Roman Catholic Church for 35 years and 1,800 allegations reported by the Jehovah's Witnesses for 65 years."

If you take Massimo's numbers and loosely find a yearly average of reported abuse that means...

About 127 Catholic reports per year.

About 28 JW reports per year.

According to one internet source...

Today about 5,075,000 (20% of entire population) of Australia is Catholic.

Today about 67,000 people in Australia are JWs.

Thus the rate of reported abuse per religious population group would be like something like this...

127/5,075,000 for Catholics = 0.000025

28/67,000 for JWs = 0.00042

Now to get an idea of whether or not the victimization rate is higher in the borg, let's take the population of Australia today...

About 26 million...

If every person in Australia was a Catholic and abused at the average yearly rate in the Catholic church, then 650 people would be abused this year.

If every person in Australia was a JW and abused at the average yearly rate in the JWborg, then 10,920 people would be abused this year.

To summarize, that's:

650 Catholics

versus

10,920 JWs

Who has a bigger problem with rate of abuse? JWborg.

(I think maybe some sociology professors like Massimo Introvigne don't do well with true and false questions or math tests or writing believable fiction. I guess you get what you pay for when you hire a liar to do your dirty work for you.)

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That's all there ever was to being a Jehovah's Witness

by Terry in

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jehovah's witnesses weren't jehovah's witnesses until 1931.until that year the people who had been hard-headed followers of end times false prophecies by william miller and seventh day adventists, more or less settled into following charisma-ballyhoo preaching by folks like "pastor" c.t.

russell.what was it that attracts these people?

it is a thin veneer of pious bible interpretation as a means of prepping for the end of the world.yep.

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What is the definition of a doomsday cult?

You can find various definitions on the internet. Here is one of them:

"A doomsday cult is a new religious movement or cult that says that the world is about to end. According to these cults, there will be a catastrophe." (SimpleEnglishWikipedia)

If you go by this definition, my first serious indoctrination with a doomsday cult was in middle school (I was not a Jehovah's Witness until later in life - at present I am disfellowshipped and banned from attending locally). I joined "Future Problem Solvers", an after school club with members gleaned from science classes who were told they had to be the active next generation that would takeover the affairs of the world and learn how to solve problems created by hundreds of years of selfishness. Additionally, the "science" classes told that someday the sun was going to explode and burn the earth with fire, unless a meteorite hit first and caused mass death, or a nuclear catastrophe.

I was terrified as a young person because of these stories told by evolutionary atheists.

You can say what you want about the WTBT$. They do a lot of really bad things and bring reproach on God's Name, and I do not support their heinous activities or false doctrines. But I don't think that pointing the finger with the accusation "You're a doomsday cult!" is either productive or accurate. They are a cult in different ways, but the "doomsday" thing isn't the right adjective. At the end of the day, Jehovah's Witnesses recognize that God will preserve the earth and some of humankind, which is a lot more than the evolutionary atheists are willing to acknowledge. Evolutionary atheists teach that the entire earth will be destroyed and all life on it.

The borg is not accurate about all the ways God will handle things - the borg makes distinctions that are not accurate according to the Bible and the way we see God's personality reflected in His Son, Christ Jesus. But the Bible itself is not "doomsday" to the degree evolutionary atheism is "doomsday".

I can understand that when people have been hurt by the borg they have wild talk and all - I've done my share - and I am confident Jehovah will set things straight and expose all the heinous things religious hypocrites in the borg are guilty of. But I think there are better "insults", if you will, than the "doomsday cult" thing, unless the evolutionary atheists want to be accused of "the pot calling the kettle black." Just saying.

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Where Does Watchtower Doctrine Contradict Scripture?

by Vanderhoven7 in

here are some areas that i have found:.

not only is watchtower eschatology offbase, which is not critical, but so is watchtower soteriology … which is critical.

the bible says not to put trust in men who cannot save.

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Hi @Linda14🙂

(1) If the city isn't an empire, then why does the God's Word says she has a kingdom over the kings of the earth? Do all the kings of the earth reside in one literal city?

(2) There are other issues going on before the heavenly court that we don't have all the details about. Job, Daniel, and Revelation all depict heavenly courts. Just as we don't know all the details of the court cases in earthly courts when we are not at the hearings or in the judicial chambers, so we are not aware of all the details of what is going on in those heavenly courts.

But regardless of what Jehovah's reasons are for waiting, His ways are always righteous, and we can have confidence that He always does the right thing, and that He can and will fix everything.

(3) Amen, salvation is by Jesus. Jehovah's salvation is not dependent upon whether or not we are part of certain human institutions.

(4) Yes, God does miracles every day!🌷

@roadtonowhere...Haha! That's true, they do twist His Word and try to "put words in His mouth" that He never said!

He'll make it known how He feels about all the stuff the borg (and others) keep wrongly accusing Him of...

"Jehovah will go out like a mighty man.

He will awaken his zeal like a warrior.

He will shout, yes, he will let out a war cry;

He will show himself mightier than his enemies.

“I have kept quiet for a long time.

I remained silent and restrained myself.

Like a woman giving birth, I will groan, pant, and gasp all at once.

I will devastate mountains and hills

And dry up all their vegetation.

I will turn rivers into islands

And dry up reedy pools of water.

I will lead the blind in a way that they do not know

And cause them to tread on unfamiliar paths.

I will turn the darkness before them into light

And turn the rugged terrain into level land.

This is what I will do for them, and I will not abandon them.” (Isaiah 42:13-16)

Jehovah has been so patient. "Jehovah's Witnesses" have claimed that Jehovah supports so many things that in all actuality He hates, things He never directed to be done "in God's name". Since many Jehovah's Witnesses are blind and just following the blind, Jehovah knows which individuals to save, and He won't abandon those ones when it is the time to pass judgment on the all organizations that are reproaching His Name (starting with the ones that claim to represent Him by name, "Jehovah's Witnesses.") The angels of the congregations will help all those individuals who Jesus directs them to help, wherever they may be found. God is not partial.

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Where Does Watchtower Doctrine Contradict Scripture?

by Vanderhoven7 in

here are some areas that i have found:.

not only is watchtower eschatology offbase, which is not critical, but so is watchtower soteriology … which is critical.

the bible says not to put trust in men who cannot save.

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"dissertation - a long essay on a particular subject, especially one written as a requirement for the Doctor of Philosophy degree"

Here is something the WTBT$ does that is not in harmony with scripture: making special "schools" (Elder School, Pioneer School, Branch School, Bethel School, whatever...) the same way the scribes and Pharisees did, and claiming that a person is uneducated in God's ways unless they have attended such schools. (There are "Pharisees-type" people who are not in the WTBT$ who also adhere to this kind of thinking...) It is not wrong to go to a school. Education is a good thing. But it is the assumption that a person cannot understand or preach or be close to God unless they attended a specific seminary/monastery/GileadSchool/university/etc. that is a fallacy.

Jesus did not attend any of those places. Neither did the apostles.

Jesus had something to say about those who wanted to "teach" for their own glory's sake...

"They like the most prominent place at evening meals and the front seats in the synagogues and the greetings in the marketplaces and to be called Rabbi by men. But you, do not you be called Rabbi, for one is your Teacher, and all of you are brothers."

“Beware of the scribes who like to walk around in robes and who love greetings in the marketplaces and front seats in the synagogues and the most prominent places at evening meals, and who devour the houses of the widows and for show make long prayers. These will receive a more severe judgment.”"

What is the difference between a teaching session by Jesus and a "dissertation" by a scribe?

"When Jesus finished these sayings, the effect was that the crowds were astounded at his way of teaching, for he was teaching them as a person having authority, and not as their scribes."

"and they were astounded at his way of teaching, because he spoke with authority"

"When the festival was half over, Jesus went up into the temple and began teaching. And the Jews were astonished, saying: “How does this man have such a knowledge of the Scriptures when he has not studied at the schools?” Jesus, in turn, answered them and said: “What I teach is not mine, but belongs to him who sent me. If anyone desires to do His will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or I speak of my own originality. Whoever speaks of his own originality is seeking his own glory; but whoever seeks the glory of the one who sent him, this one is true and there is no unrighteousness in him."

Jesus spoke from the heart and he knew what he was talking about. Jehovah's holy spirit gave him words of truth and power. His motive was to glorify God. When he opened his mouth, he shared the good treasure of his heart.

The scribes (who sought their own glory) spoke from the other end, and they were full of it.

Jesus told us he would give us what we need when we need it.

"...the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you."

"...I will give you words and wisdom that all your opposers together will not be able to resist or dispute."

(@lastmanstanding, - your math doesn't add up.🙂 I Herd what you said, but I think maybe you'd better Splane it for us because your theory sounds kinda like that 1914 overlapping generations thing - a make believe story.)