Posts by smoky21

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With no reporting necessary do they still need a territory guy?

by carla in

now that they no longer have to report hours do they still need a territory guy?

maps?

etc...?.

smoky21

Hey Carla. Do you think that this "not reporting field service hours" policy will bring strife or completive spirit among the publishers? You know like even more clique's, and members being shunned for not going to official field service outings. I think members will be more paranoid and suspicious of each other, there will be no official gauge of your spirituality. It use to be a factor for getting privilege's in congregations. Its going to be problematic exponentially, it was happening before, now it will be worst. If there is any person on Forum, who have one foot in and one out, (for a better lack of words) that can report on this it should be a good read.

thanks guys.

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I received Blood...What are the JW's going to do to me?

by smoky21 in

i haven't posted on here for years.

i also don't frequent this forum like i used to.. i have posted my story before, like 8 years ago.

i have been a baptized witness for the last 30+ years, but have not attended meetings in the last 15 years.

smoky21

Hi,

I haven't posted on here for years. I also don't frequent this forum like I used to.

I have posted my story before, like 8 years ago. I have been a baptized witness for the last 30+ years, but have not attended meetings in the last 15 years. I've faded basically. I recently had a health issue that required surgery. My immediate family that I'm close to are still in the truth. So I had to tell them that if needed, I would not stop the medical professionals from giving me blood. And I got NO pushback. Nothing. I found this surprising. I was ready to defend my position, but did not have to say a word. I found this confusing. I let it go, since I was very nervous about surgery.

Has JW's softened its position on the blood policy?

I ended up receiving 2 units of blood during surgery and another unit in recovery. All I heard was...Crickets, nothing from family. This happened in July, and I have since recovered from surgery. The subject has not been talked about, but should I bring it up? Or should I leave this alone?

I ask myself also, do they love me enough to try to "save" me, or have they just conceded that I am lost, & will not see paradise anyway. (Not that I believe this anyway). Not sure what to think.

Will they turn me in? If so, will I get disfellowshipped? Do they disfellowship for this still? Or is it a conscience matter? I have been out for awhile, so I'm not sure anymore.

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Do i still believe in GOD?

by smoky21 in

hi, everyonei not new new... i have been here before under a different user, i just forgot my log-in info after a long time...so i created a new one.i from time to time post something.

usually i just like reading post, cuz you guys are great.i consider myself a atheist.

i came to this conclusion a few years ago, but i think i have always been skeptical about god's existence.i dont ever remember having experiencing the holy spirit, or anything supernatural good or evil, so i cannot relate to people who have.i always thought i was good person (never steal, fornicated or hurt anyone), yet never felt blessed by god.

smoky21

hmmm. Your right Stuffwotifink.

Like Cofty, mentioned in his post. I guess I felt the need for justice, and him going to hell is more common way of thinking for a christian raised person.

'What goes around, comes around' (karma) is more likely the montra I will use to forget about it.

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Do i still believe in GOD?

by smoky21 in

hi, everyonei not new new... i have been here before under a different user, i just forgot my log-in info after a long time...so i created a new one.i from time to time post something.

usually i just like reading post, cuz you guys are great.i consider myself a atheist.

i came to this conclusion a few years ago, but i think i have always been skeptical about god's existence.i dont ever remember having experiencing the holy spirit, or anything supernatural good or evil, so i cannot relate to people who have.i always thought i was good person (never steal, fornicated or hurt anyone), yet never felt blessed by god.

smoky21

VI,

I'm not absolutely sure who took it. The patrons running the Fast food place told me that he was the last customer, before i got back to ask around. (during our conv. older man was complaining that he only had $6 to spend too) the Patrons seemed concerned also that it happened in his establishment, funny things though they said there are no cameras. I found that suspicious , being that its not the bests of neighborhoods, & there was 1" thick clear wall between them and customers like the Currency Exchange stores here in the US. I guess it does not matter, who took it. my feeling where the same.

Bastard!!!!!! GO TO HELL!!!!!

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Do i still believe in GOD?

by smoky21 in

hi, everyonei not new new... i have been here before under a different user, i just forgot my log-in info after a long time...so i created a new one.i from time to time post something.

usually i just like reading post, cuz you guys are great.i consider myself a atheist.

i came to this conclusion a few years ago, but i think i have always been skeptical about god's existence.i dont ever remember having experiencing the holy spirit, or anything supernatural good or evil, so i cannot relate to people who have.i always thought i was good person (never steal, fornicated or hurt anyone), yet never felt blessed by god.

smoky21

cofty,

Yes I'm still using my old username Smoky. ha ha.

bye the way....I found my wallet in my mailbox the following morning.

I guess the older man did have some semblance of a conscious. Thought he did not return my $180 dollars....Bastard!!!! he's going to Hell alright!!!!!

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Do i still believe in GOD?

by smoky21 in

hi, everyonei not new new... i have been here before under a different user, i just forgot my log-in info after a long time...so i created a new one.i from time to time post something.

usually i just like reading post, cuz you guys are great.i consider myself a atheist.

i came to this conclusion a few years ago, but i think i have always been skeptical about god's existence.i dont ever remember having experiencing the holy spirit, or anything supernatural good or evil, so i cannot relate to people who have.i always thought i was good person (never steal, fornicated or hurt anyone), yet never felt blessed by god.

smoky21

Hi, everyone
I not new new... i have been here before under a different user, i just forgot my log-in info after a long time...so i created a new one.I from time to time post something. Usually I just like reading post, cuz you guys are great.
I consider myself a Atheist. I came to this conclusion a few years ago, but i think I have always been skeptical about god's existence.I don’t ever remember having experiencing the holy spirit, or anything supernatural Good or Evil, so I cannot relate to people who have.I always thought I was good person (never steal, fornicated or hurt anyone), yet never felt blessed by god. I never felt good enough.What da Phuck do I need to do to get Gods Approval?...at the end...its cuz nobody is home up there.
I had a generally mild traumatic experience this past weekend. I decided to go get me a quick bite to eat at small Fast food place, it was slow at the time and there was just one other customer that placed a order after me. He seemed like a nice older man, we chatted about food, and he even recommended me a good fried chicken place to go. Once my order was ready i picked it up, left, and said goodbye. I got into my car and drove about 1/2 mile to a grocery store to do some shopping. Then noticed a problem I CANT FIND MY WALLET!!!! (enter dramatic music here). I rushed back (10 min later). It turns out, I (like a dumbass) left my wallet on the counter of pickup window of the Fast food place, and the nice older man took it.
I immediately felt shame, and verbally beat myself for pucking up. I also then felt confused, why did he take it? Why didn’t he turn it in to the establishment? then...(here is the kicker) I started to feel that this older man is going to HELL. HELL. God is going to punish this man.
Why was I feeling this way? Could it be that, I have not totally stop believing in God? Hmmm. Could it be just a force of years of habit?My experience is not that traumatic compare to, for example: losing a love one. Could extreme emotional trauma drive you back (to religion)?
Has anyone ever had such a crisis of faith or no faith, after a traumatic experience?

ThanksSmoky