Whatever happened to "they will never beg for money" ?
And if they ever did it would mean Jehovah has given up on them ?
in the latest jw broadcast, anthony morris the turd gives a talk about donations.
to camouflage this, he starts and ends the talk by saying that isn't actually what he's doing.
first he starts with the usual disclaimer, 'wt has never begged for money like christendom and we never will', you know the drill.
Whatever happened to "they will never beg for money" ?
And if they ever did it would mean Jehovah has given up on them ?
nehemia gordon, in his book "shattering the conspiracy of silence", argues that "yehovah" is god's name pronunciation and it has never got completely lost, giving a linguistic explanation.
what do you think about that?.
I think that Jehovah`s Witnesses should at least try to pronounce a more correct pronunciation for God`s name than just blindly follow on with Catholic tradition using Jehovah.
isn`t there enough evidence to acknowledge the god of the bible has been a failure ?according to wt / jw teachings ?.
a god that has supposed to have created the visible universe and everything in it ?.
some points where i would challenge that from an earthlings point of view using the bible if only in paraphrase.. doesn`t god create everything perfect ?
SB
God supposedly gave humans free choice , but there was a catch to it .If they used that free choice to not follow God they would be killed !
Doesn`t really sound like a free choice to me that anyone would take.
God`s definition of sin is anybody who disagrees with him .
The God of the Bible is a Dictator who you must obey or die.
Free will does`nt come into it without dire consequences for you.
who of those passed away jwd/jwn members, do we think of??.
oompah and the lady from australia, are there more??.
g..
Thanks TD I remember her now.
who of those passed away jwd/jwn members, do we think of??.
oompah and the lady from australia, are there more??.
g..
Your talking about mouthy Black Sheep ,?
Who was the one from Australia ?
my wife and i have been together for 12 years.
married for 6. she was born into the truth, i studied for 2 years before we got married.
we would attend meetings on a weekly basis, go to conventions, and memorial every year.
Welcome to the forum Worstfear ,though not under the best circumstances. She has done the dirty on you ,so don`t let her take you for a ride.Protect your assets and throw her under the bus JW wise .Make sure the Elders know it was her who brought reproach on Jehovahs Organization .It`s no time or place to be sentimental or "christian" you know what I mean ,don`t turn the other cheek.
I hope there are no children involved .
Make sure you take care of yourself mentally as it can be a harrowing experience , I`ve seen my youngest son go through this same scenario,I know you must be devastated .
Take care ,I wish you well.
isn`t there enough evidence to acknowledge the god of the bible has been a failure ?according to wt / jw teachings ?.
a god that has supposed to have created the visible universe and everything in it ?.
some points where i would challenge that from an earthlings point of view using the bible if only in paraphrase.. doesn`t god create everything perfect ?
SB,
How can you or anybody else for that matter say that God is love ? Examining the historical evidences of the Bible if they were even true, and the history of humankind ?
So what you seem to be implying is that there can be no "paradise" that God intended because some Angels and some humans will always rebel against a Theocratic Rule ,whereby Jehovah will have to kill them off.
Isn`t that a fail ?
isn`t there enough evidence to acknowledge the god of the bible has been a failure ?according to wt / jw teachings ?.
a god that has supposed to have created the visible universe and everything in it ?.
some points where i would challenge that from an earthlings point of view using the bible if only in paraphrase.. doesn`t god create everything perfect ?
Isn`t there enough evidence to acknowledge the God of the Bible has been a failure ?According to WT / JW teachings ?
A God that has supposed to have created the visible universe and everything in it ?
Some points where I would challenge that from an earthlings point of view using the Bible if only in paraphrase.
Doesn`t God create everything Perfect ? Including the Angels ? and humans ? We know why humans fell short out of their perfection according to WT/ Bible ,ultimately because of deception by an Angel designated as Satan .
Isnt that a failure ?
While Satan figures prominently in the Bible ,he was not the only Angel to rebel was he . According to the Bible ,didn`t a third of the Angels side with Satan ? and reject Jehovah as GOD ALMIGHTY ?
Isn`t that a failure ?
Just how Almighty is Jehovah God if allowing Satan to come before him on his heavenly throne after rebelling against him for hundreds of years and he still converses with him ,and even allows him to test one of Gods loyal subjects ?
Isn`t that a failure ?
Then hundreds of years later Satan is allowed to test the son of God Jesus and even spend time with him upon a mountain together .
Isn`t that a failure ?
Armageddon is supposed to happen any day soon now when Satan is to be abyss`d for a thousand years ,but after Satan is to be let loosed upon earth once again to mislead many more people as he can ,( wasn`t the first six thousand years enough? ) apparently not .
Another failure ?
Humans are supposed to be lower than the Angels right ? In all of this time who on the scale of justice do you think got the short end of the stick..?
What sufferering`s deprivation ,indignitarie,s ,pain and loss of life ,diseases and death ,did any rebellious Angel ever go through ?
Your thoughts, criticism would be appreciated .
minimus former jw, prolific poster on jwn died.. minimus.
joined 19 years ago.
started 4,139 topics.
Bloody hell ,this is sad news ,so sorry to hear this.
most of us know what theocratic warfare means but maybe very few people reading this forum might never heard of theocratic warfare.
can you give them some examples of theocratic warfare?
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If I remember correctly,Vin Toole the JW lawyer lying to the ARC under oath mind you when asked about theocratic warfare said he had heard of the phrase but did not know what it meant.
Also
Geoffrey Jackson Aust GB member lied to the ARC again under oath to tell the truth ,that it would be presumptuous to say that JW were the only religion God was using .