Posts by startingover

1 - you vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.. .

2 - you feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the biblical claim that we were created from dirt.. .

"The 1975 Fiasco Viewed from Inside Bethel"

by leavingwt in

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via the brooklyn heights blog, a former jehovahs witness, now a convert to orthodox catholicism, recounts his days as a bethelite in the witnesses' brooklyn heights headquarters, in a series of recent blog posts.

part i -- the journey from jws to the orthodox church.

http://orthocath.wordpress.com/2010/02/27/the-journey-from-jehovahs-witnesses-to-the-orthodox-church/.

startingover

Thanks for posting this LeavingWT. Looking back, I really thought it was going to happen. Reading this info now makes it all seem so foolish.

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I Think Terry Over Analyzes Too Much

by minimus in

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there.... i had to say it!.

terry, you seem like a very nice guy.. having said that, i have to wonder if you "enjoy" life or do you question everything?.

you question more than minimus..

startingover

I don't come here for fluff, I come here because of people like Terry. I missed him when he as absent for a while, glad to see him back and posting.

Keep it up Terry!

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Governing Body two-thirds majority

by wannabefree in

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i believe current count is 9 gb, so that makes 6 out of 9 for it to be so?.

how about two-thirds when all 10,800 or so are given a say?.

startingover

Thanks Dozy. I haven't read that info for probably 8 years. Reading it the first time was so eyeopening. This time it really brought on feelings of anger. The nerve of that group is beyond what I can tolerate.

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The Born Again Experience

by leavingwt in

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i enjoyed this essay by psychologist valerie tarico.

the born again experience.

i prayed harder and just then i felt like everything i was saying was being sucked into a vacuum.

startingover

Exjw2814,

A scary thing huh? I guess I disagree. I've been an atheist for a lot longer than you say you were, but as one I never felt the need to not discuss the bible or god. In fact, the more I do discuss it the more confident I am that the bible god does not exist. BTW, I do pray, to Clint Eastwood, gotta say the results aren't too bad.

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The Born Again Experience

by leavingwt in

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i enjoyed this essay by psychologist valerie tarico.

the born again experience.

i prayed harder and just then i felt like everything i was saying was being sucked into a vacuum.

startingover

It just hit me that I had this same feeling of euphoria and peace comeover me when after much investigation, I came to the realization that the bible god I once "worshipped" does not exist. Wonder what term I should use to describe my experience.

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"A Declaration of Intellectual Independence"

by leavingwt in

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i enjoyed this 1954 essay by joseph lewis.

i was previously unaware that so many medical advancements were opposed by the clergy.

here's a small quote from the essay:.

startingover

Thanks for posting.