I cannot believe what you believers have posted on this thread. And you Snowbird, after what you have posted I have to ask what happened to your swan song? You should have carried it out. Your thinking is dangerous and needs to be suppressed.
startingover
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The Issue is Not that God WANTS Us to Suffer...
by AGuest indear ones.
rather, it is our adversary who says we will do anything... anything... to avoid it.
a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g. even curse god to his face.
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Do you ENJOY these endless theism/atheism - faith/reason - creation/evolution debates?
by nicolaou in.
sure i get frustrated when i have to explain for the bajillionth time just why atheism is not a belief or why it is possible to know some things with 100% certainty but despite all the exasperations i still count it as one of the rewards of freeing my mind and exiting the wt that i can argue so endlessly and freely.. even if some of you do get on my tits sometimes .
nic'.
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startingover
Absolutely, they are my favorite type of discussion on JWN. Sometime I wonder why. I think it might be because deep down it's hard to accept that my parents and all the people I grew up with believed and that possibly I am wrong in not believing. The more I read these discussion the more I become convinced I am on the right.
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For Tammy (Tec) - scrutinizing 'revealed' scriptural understanding
by SweetBabyCheezits incontinuing darth's thread i unintentionally hijacked (sorry, again).... .
tec: um... just in case some of that was directed at me (and if not, i apologize),.
tammy, my comment wasn't directed specifically at you but, in general, at anyone who hastily buys into claims of 'revealed' scriptural understanding without scrutinizing them as carefully as we would wt doctrine.
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Tammy,
It seems to me that one can take christ out of the equation and nothing would change. It appears you have a passion for what is said about him and what he taught, and you read about it in the bible and like what you hear, but really why does he even have to exist for you to have that passion? Just asking...
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Letter from an anointed reader who DA'd after 33 years
by Dogpatch indear randy, early this year i requested disassociation from the org and have been meaning to publish some sort of statement.
i was a member for over 33 years and partook of the emblems.
being an older widow it took some deliberation and guts to make the move but am currently very happy with the change.
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startingover
Proof that the Faithful and Discreet Slave is the governing body and nothing more. Excellent!
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My Lord spoke and told me to post
by watersprout inmy lord spoke to me for the first time yesterday and this morning he told me to post my experience.. i know there are going to be ones who will call me names and thats ok. i will accept whatever you feel you need to say.. here goes.
i heard a voice calling ''my child'', this happened while at the zoo so i was taken off guard!
i replied ''who is this?
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startingover
This use of Jaheshua by 3 people on this thread, where did you come by that name. Like I said earlier, I googled it and next to nothing came up. Are we dealing with 3 Jaheshua followers here? How many more are there? There sure doesn't seem to be any more except the ones posting it here.
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My Lord spoke and told me to post
by watersprout inmy lord spoke to me for the first time yesterday and this morning he told me to post my experience.. i know there are going to be ones who will call me names and thats ok. i will accept whatever you feel you need to say.. here goes.
i heard a voice calling ''my child'', this happened while at the zoo so i was taken off guard!
i replied ''who is this?
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startingover
So let's just ignore Abraham shall we.
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My Lord spoke and told me to post
by watersprout inmy lord spoke to me for the first time yesterday and this morning he told me to post my experience.. i know there are going to be ones who will call me names and thats ok. i will accept whatever you feel you need to say.. here goes.
i heard a voice calling ''my child'', this happened while at the zoo so i was taken off guard!
i replied ''who is this?
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startingover
I was hoping someone would comment on Witness My Fury's post:
The statement that unless it involved LOVE the words of the LORD to you would be false is incorrect. There's plenty of killing and ethnic cleansing going on in the OT directly quoted from the LORD, to go killing men women, children and even their animals.
So you're saying that Moses and Abraham etc should have listened to their conscience instead of the LORD? The fluffy fuzzy cuddly NT LORD was there then too you know when all that killing was going on egging them on. ......So when he says KILL in YOUR ear....you'd better bloody well do it OK?
Seems to me Abraham's situation is totally getting ignored by you voice hearers.
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To new non-believers to JWN (they need guidance too)
by cyberjesus ini wanted to make a few comments to those of you that have recently begun to question or have already left the wt and made their way onto this site.
this site is a great resource to learn how others are coping with leaving the organization and moving on into a fulfilling life.. i wanted to write this post because i think reading something like this would've been helpful to me to understand where a lot of people that comment on this site are coming from.
"who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
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startingover
Good job Cyber J
There was an informal survey done on here once, don't know if I could find it now, but it indicated that the large majority of people born into the JW religion will most like become non beleivers when they figure out they were mislead. Those that hop into some other belief system were already in one when they left it to become a JW.
I think those statistics speak volumes.
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My Lord spoke and told me to post
by watersprout inmy lord spoke to me for the first time yesterday and this morning he told me to post my experience.. i know there are going to be ones who will call me names and thats ok. i will accept whatever you feel you need to say.. here goes.
i heard a voice calling ''my child'', this happened while at the zoo so i was taken off guard!
i replied ''who is this?
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startingover
In the opening post, WS said:
My Lord spoke to me for the first time yesterday and this morning he told me to post my experience.
I know there are going to be ones who will call me names and thats ok. I will accept whatever you feel you need to say.
So it appears you got what you were expecting (although those who you say mock you don't consider it that) But you don't seem to be accepting it very well.
You know, it's interesting as I had never heard the name ''Jaheshua Mischajah'' before and so I Googled it. There were only 3 pages of hits Google came up with, and almost every one of those was from JWN, and apparently it originated with Shelby as she was tied into it on another forum as well as this one. And now you find it necessary to end your posts the same way she does. Do you two have some kind of a connection that no one else in the world does?
Did you know how to spell that name for the opening post? If I had a voice say that name to me I would have immediately googled it, if I could have figured out how to spell it, and the results that I got when I did it just now would have made me realize that something was possibly wrong in my head. Just something to think about.
I also wonder if people in China or India who hear voices have it come from a christian based god. I would be willing to bet they hear voices from the gods of their cultures.
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To new Christians on JWN
by brotherdan ini wanted to make a few comments to those of you that have recently begun to question or have already left the wt and made their way onto this site.
this site is a great resource to learn how others are coping with leaving the organization and moving on into a fulfilling life.. i wanted to write this post because i think reading something like this would've been helpful to me to understand where a lot of people that comment on this site are coming from.
you are going to hear from a wide range of people that have moved on to a diverse range of beliefs.
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startingover
Just want to say that I feel there may just be some being that started all we see around us, but I am sure that being is not the god of the bible. That's why the bible means nothing to people like me.