Posts by TonusOH

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

You can tell how it's going by the way he is pushing the whole "I don't need to provide evidence, YOU need to provide evidence" narrative. A reminder: he filed the suit. He is legally required to provide evidence, including to the people he is accusing of a crime or of defamation. If he cannot, then he doesn't have a case.

I think it's pretty clear that he wants to drag it out because he must finally have realized that he set himself up for a very public (and very embarrassing) failure. I don't think he can face the ridicule to come if the criminal suit goes nowhere.

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Upbringing

by punkofnice in

i was brought up as a born-in(tm) here in the uk.

it wasn't until i was 50 that the scales fell from my eyes, i woke up, got da'd from the cult and my wife was advised to leave me by the elders whom i had served with on the boe.

one of which i know wanted to schtupf her.

TonusOH

punkofnice: I guess what I'm asking is, does it sound normal that I hold this resentment and am frustrated that I can't explain to him?

I think it's understandable. We trust our parents to take care of us when we are too young and inexperienced to make good choices. When we realize that they made a very bad choice for us, you can't help but feel resentment.

If my mother had her way, I would still be working a dead-end job in a mailroom somewhere and serving as an elder in a congregation. I found my own opportunities and made a good living, and when I finally left the organization behind I was in a good place financially but also mentally and emotionally. That has taken some of the edge off of the bitterness I feel towards her for the way she treated me and for the low expectations she set for me. But it's hard not to feel it- even today, she lives a much better life because I succeeded in spite of her. But she does not appreciate it one bit.

The WTS creates a poisonous mindset in people.

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Replacing God?

by punkofnice in

we seem to be if a more secular society here in the west, these days.

i'm speaking from the uk.. with the lack of belief in god/s, i'm wondering if all the seeming (note: i said seeming!

), deification of people like greta thunberg, george floyd and celebs amongst others, if people who have no real belief system, are filling the gap left by god with people?.

TonusOH

I trust the consensus, which is that the planet is warming and that human activity is playing a part. I don't think that there is a consensus on many of the details that are used by activists to push for stricter legislation. I have noticed that the same nations that trusted science implicitly when it came to COVID have ignored "the science" outright when it comes to climate change.

So I believe that it is happening and that human activity is part of the cause. I don't believe that we have X number of years to stall or reverse the trend in order to avoid an unstoppable feedback loop that will be catastrophic to mankind. When China and India (and however many more nations are currently paying it little heed) lead the way in CO2 mitigation, then I'll believe those latter claims.

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Our J.W friends still have issues with beards 2022??Why?

by Witness 007 in

our witness friend who during covid grew his beard has been hassled by elders who asked him "why" he chose to have facial growth.

he for real, had to give an answer why.

this is pharasees total rubbish.

TonusOH

Tell him it's a good thing he didn't get an ear pierced.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

I guess that's what happens when you criminally file a suit.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

"put it in writing to my lawyers if you want it to receive the slightest attention."

Yeah, that line made me laugh. He uses that line at the end of a massive rant that was in response to a post Kim made. Does anyone believe that he will ignore any future messages from Kim? He put up a 97-minute video when she made the original reddit post. He posted a long diatribe on Facebook. He made a bunch of comments on one of her videos. If Kim sneezes, he's ready with a 3,000-word rant.

But hey, let's take him at his word that he's done giving Kim "the slightest attention." Now Kim can discuss Evans as much as she wants, and he won't respond... right?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

It's legible. When analyzing it, remember that he is willing to lie and misdirect in order to pursue his agenda. He focused his rant on the damage done to him by Kim's reddit post, and not on his own actions that led to it. This has been his approach from the start; it's not what he did that has caused his problems, it is Kim's fault for pulling back the curtain.

This is why it is good to remind everyone that he admitted to cheating on his wife over a period of years with prostitutes. That he had almost wrecked his marriage years before by engaging in sexual chats online with "girls" (his description). That he decided to get his head together by "dating a sex worker in Thailand." That he now expresses concern over how his wife and daughters will have their lives changed by people discussing it, instead of by what he did.

And that he lacks the self-awareness to realize just how bad that last paragraph makes him look.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

I think the term "diluted" better applies to the person who thinks that seeing prostitutes on the regular amounts to "once."

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

*Shines a bright light in Simon's face* Yeah... why don't we ever see you and Lloyd in the same place at the same time? Hmmmmmmmm??

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1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today

by enoughisenough in

i am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.

i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.

in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.

TonusOH

LongHairGal,

Yes, they ask the questions just before the group is led off to change and get baptized. At that point, if you want to back out you would be doing so very publicly. Now, if they do it the way they did when I got baptized, then in the weeks before the convention, you would have sat down for two sessions with an elder, who will review many of the JW beliefs. They will ask a question and provide Bible texts, and you must answer the question using the texts so that everyone is assured that you have the JW answer for that question. In my experience, the elder is really there to help walk you through it. I don't think they really want to test your knowledge, they just want to make sure that the JW teachings have sunk in.