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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  TonusOH

  Hmmm, it would be pronounced Bore-us Evans. I like it!
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  Fascinating Quotations of The Faithful Slave

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  do you have any amazing quotations that have been produced by the faithful slave over the years?.

  remember it's important that we should learn to love and value truth for it’s own sake; to respect and honor it by owning and acknowledging it wherever we find it and by whomever presented.

  a truth presented by the faithful slave himself is just as true as a truth stated by god.. share some of those amazing quotations that have fascinated you.

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  My mother is still an active JW. She turned 85 back in May. Her mother was a JW, and two of her sisters are, as well as several of her nieces. My dad was in for a short period, but he did that mostly to try and hold the marriage together and it didn't work, so he left both the organization and the home back in the 80s. He passed away in 2001. One of his sisters is still a JW, as far as I know. She would be in her 80s as well. I doubt her sons are still JWs, they did not seem like the type to stay, heh.

  My sisters and I are all out, we either left or faded over a long period of time. My older sister was a regular pioneer for a few years before she left (I later learned that she pioneered on the advice of some elders to deal with some issue she was having- it didn't work). I was a ministerial servant for about a year in the mid-90s. It felt like the culmination of a lot of hard work to get there, but by then my heart really wasn't in it and I lost that 'privilege' and that accelerated my fade (though I would never have thought I was fading at the time).
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  Fascinating Quotations of The Faithful Slave

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. bible

  do you have any amazing quotations that have been produced by the faithful slave over the years?.

  remember it's important that we should learn to love and value truth for it’s own sake; to respect and honor it by owning and acknowledging it wherever we find it and by whomever presented.

  a truth presented by the faithful slave himself is just as true as a truth stated by god.. share some of those amazing quotations that have fascinated you.

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  I can remember that my mother was concerned about my interest in computers and IT, and did not approve of my taking advantage of an opportunity at my job (where I was a mail clerk- standard JW career track) to start building a network and become an IT admin.

  She stopped complaining when my pay increased by some 50% in just 18 months, and more than doubled over the next few years. Funny, that-- once we stopped struggling and had some level of financial security, she wasn't so concerned about it.
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  Roe vs Wade Overturned by US Supreme Court!

  by Simon in

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  i know there was a leak a few weeks back, but this really does seem to have come out of the blue.. the anomaly was the original decision.

  it clearly had no basis in law or the constitution, and was a flimsy, ridiculous ruling.

  plus the whole thing was based on a fraudulent case in the first place.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61928898.

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  TonusOH

  I think Harris was making the point that, if abortion is such an evil in God's eyes, He is acting in direct opposition to that belief by making it happen naturally. If you're an atheist, the argument is meaningless, since the high rate of natural miscarriages is just an outcome of the evolutionary process.
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  Ex-Elder Joe Talks to JW's "Babies enemies of God"

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  https://youtu.be/rwp_pii9axg.

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  That's true, the belief is that we are born imperfect and tainted with sin, unable to lead perfect lives. The impression I get is that we are born with a share of the guilt for Adam and Eve's original sin, and are therefore hell-bound from birth. What I wonder is- how does the infant achieve atonement? Is it granted in recognition of its inability to feel remorse and seek forgiveness yet? If the infant dies before it can reason, is it damned?
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  Researching published JW content is now hindered

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. bible

  the recent topic by comingoutamycage about the amount of words published by jws decreasing reminded me:.

  jws are now publishing more video content than printed content.

  all the printed content up until now has either officially or unofficially been made available in digital format with the ability to search for keywords, which removed a layer of control and allows us to instantly find any references to, say, 1975 or "this generation".

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  The declines could be due to price changes in the materials they used to print books, or a change in policy regarding how long to make them. It would not surprise me if they just allowed certain writers (Rutherford and Franz come to mind) to write as much as they wanted and publish whatever they wrote. As more writers started to work on books and needed guidance, they would probably have come up with a set of rules, including how long to make any books (which would also make it easier to get the presses set up and any other machines configured).

  I like the thought that Franz was so humiliated by the 1975 failure that he lost a bit of the will to keep writing. But a guy in his position would have had an ego the size of the Sun. I doubt it bothered him to be so spectacularly wrong- he probably blamed Jehovah for welshing on a promise.
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  OH...NO! Watchtower Has A New Rule Related To Dress And Grooming

  by JW GoneBad in

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  the new head-of-the-house max has a problem with how his new stepdaughter (olivia) looks and dresses.. on the friday afternoon part 2 convention video @ 18:10 max 1st brings it up with olivia while in the kitchen!

  then fast forward to 26:50 thru 27:65 max bellyaches to new wife (olivia's mother) & it's handled!

  message to all rank & file jws....no more fashion torn jeans & beach sandles: :) :) :).

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  Diogenesister: Sadly I'm a bit too old to get away with them out and about now!

  The WTS would have a much higher retention rate if they didn't allow anyone to join until their late middle age. I find it would be much easier to follow most of their rules now than I did 30 years ago.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  TonusOH

  Don't they categorize you as inactive if you do not turn in a field report for a certain number of months? Or some other quantifiable criteria?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  https://graphtreon.com/creator/cedars suggests that his current income is $1721.00 USD

  I'm not 100% sure, but I think Graphtreon makes a guess based on whatever info they can get from each creator's landing page, which is usually the number of patrons and the range of subscription options. I don't think it can sort those, nor can it know how many patrons pay more than is being requested. In other words, if Lloyd's highest tier was $20 and a wealthy supporter decided to contribute $2000 instead, Graphtreon would still show $1,721 per month instead of $3,721.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  original reddit post (removed).

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  TonusOH

  It's very similar, in that I think they both feel that it's better to go down fighting for that miniscule chance that things will work out, even though it's almost certain that they will go down with an utterly busted legacy. And if Johnson really believes that he'll make it through this and still be PM in 2030, then he's even more delusional than Evans.

  As for Evans branching out, I don't think that will work well for him. He knows the WT organization and its past and history and belief systems from being in the organization for many years. All he knows about Mormons or Scientologists is whatever he reads or watches from others. He can't really do it justice, and his own indiscretions will continue to follow him wherever he goes if he decides to continue to pursue "professional activism." It's simple: he ruined his reputation. He can try to run from it, but that won't work. And he's not going to change his personality, which means he's going to anger people and they will make every effort to continue to rub his nose in his own personal messes. I think he's done, he just doesn't realize it yet.