Posts by TonusOH

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2022 - 1914 = ?

by fedup in

obviously not the orgs brightest moment for teaching that the generation of 1914 would be alive to see paradise.

forget the "new light" that bought them an extra 100 years, which if any other religion would've done this, the org would scream false religion.

the fact is that for 75 years this #1 recruiting message from the society was a lie.. i asked a current jw to get a calculator and do the math: 2022 - 1914 = an angry reaction.

It's a blend of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias. We can easily see the absurdity in a situation when it is being promoted by someone we are not associated with, yet we bend our reasoning into very odd shapes when we want to defend the absurd things that we have invested ourselves into.

I think it's more difficult today to get away with trying to memory-hole inconvenient facts about their past, but the WTS has no other choice if they want to keep the grift going. But they managed to make 1914 (as the date of the end, not the beginning of the end), 1918, 1925 and 1975 disappear. Making 1914 and the generation teaching go away will take some work- I think they made a big mistake trying to rehab it with the overlapping generations explanation. There have to be a lot of people who saw that as the last straw, or as the first crack in the foundation.

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What have you forgotten you ever even knew?

by Simon in

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at a certain point, as the years tick by, you start to realize that you have forgotten a lot of things.

typically, something you learned, some knowledge or skill you used to have, that you just haven't used for so long you no longer remember anything but that you once knew it.. i saw an article about electrical resistors the other day, and how the colored bands signify the rating.

now all i remember is that i used to know it, and that resistors do something with, erm, electricity ...

TonusOH

What is the old joke? "Memory is the second thing you lose as you get older. I can't recall what the first is..."

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

What should we get him for his birthday?

Send him 3,000 euro in Monopoly money. It's the proper way to settle the litigation.

As for the background in his bunker, I think he wanted to show that he had a large collection of WT books and material, but also wanted to make it fancier than just a bookcase lined with books. What he ended up with looks like a shrine. Any of the GB would be happy to shoot a video with that as a backdrop.

But I would advise them to wipe the seat thoroughly with a damp rag before they sit down.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

That ad would be perfect if the censoring stripe was across his neckbeard.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

Also: Since he was "forced" to put the info about his infidelity into the book, he might as well go about and do it.

Apparently, he felt it was a sensible explanation when she asked him why he cheated. It's insane.

He's clearly a man of deep integrity!

He is so committed to honesty that: if he says he cheated with prostitutes, he must then do so. Otherwise he'd be a liar, and that's just unacceptable!

He values consistency so highly that: having paid for sex once, he decided to do so every couple of months for three or four years!

He values his honor and reputation so highly that: he files criminal charges and sends legal letters in a manner that can be charitably described as unserious.

He values his wife and family so highly that: oh, wait... he doesn't value them at all.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

Here's the problematic part for him:

CRIMINAL OFFENSES AGAINST HONOR AND REPUTATION

And I only partly mean it in jest. If you've already admitted to repeatedly cheating on your spouse with whores (sorry, 20+ year-old untrafficked sex workers and girlfriends) and the web is replete with examples of your dodgy behavior and bad manners, it's difficult to come up with something bad enough to constitute a mark against your honor and reputation.

God, imagine being the lawyer researching his case, and realizing that the only reasons you will file it is because (A)none of the defendants will show up, (B)your client won't be cross-examined, and (C)he's paying you to go through with it.* I'm thinking the odds are pretty good that this will feed the office gossip mill for years to come.

*At least I'm assuming he's paying. You never know...

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

Of all the things I'm awesome at, being humble is probably the best.

Just like Moses!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

I'm betting that he had a hand in describing it.

"Yes, I'm a graduate of the illustrious JW training school. Very exclusive, quite an honor indeed. Few of us even made it out alive..."

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

Please don't publish his home address or any information that he has not, himself, made public.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

I'm curious about that myself, and how it would affect the civil suit. When you consider that he refers to "girls" in both his book and video, how damaging is it to mention an accusation of grooming/abusing a 14-year-old? I think he could make a case that such an accusation is damaging, but it would not be easy to determine liability. Again, this depends on how Crotian law/courts deal with such matters, but in the US you can win a defamation case but have the damages reduced if you are considered to be at least partly liable.

That also raises another question- is the civil suit just for show? There is no reason for any of the plaintiffs to make the trip out there to defend themselves. Otherwise, the case could have been extremely embarrassing (and even more damaging to his reputation). Imagine calling him to the stand for a cross-examination? Imagine calling family members, or others who know him and have worked for him, to testify? He almost certainly will not have to go through that, so he can continue to brag and bluster on Twitter without the fear that he'd be exposed.