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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Croatia isn't going to extradite anyone for defamation, even if there was a clear-cut case. Extradition is used when someone has committed a major crime in a country (murder, rape, kidnapping, spying, etc) and then leaves that country to avoid prosecution. And even then, it requires time and court appearances and agreements by the host country... and that is assuming that there is already an extradition treaty in place.

  No country is going to arrest you and go through the trouble of setting up an extradition just because you put someone on blast and they're upset that people found out things about them. It's more likely that Croatia will offer to extradite Evans to any country that will have him, just to be rid of him.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I could do with some of that self confidence.

  I think the problem is that it is bordering on self-delusion. The only way to be that confident is to lack self-awareness, which I do think is one of the problems he has. He does not seem capable of recognizing that some of his actions and arguments are unconvincing (or even harmful to his case). Doubling down doesn't help, nor does his stubborn determination to win at any cost, because he only really knows one way to deal with the pressure, which is to launch one massive attack after another. If your reaction to being called a bully is to bully even harder...
  
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  Billions to die at Armageddon?

  by BoogerMan in

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  not according to this verse:.

  (mark 3:28, 29) truly i say to you that all things will be forgiven the sons of men, no matter what sins they commit and what blasphemies they speak.

  but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit has no forgiveness forever but is guilty of everlasting sin.”.

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  Armageddon will be the worst thing ever to hit this earth in the history of man.

  Good job, Jehovah!
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Kim this is how he has won Every Single Time, in the past. He’s like a dog whose only talent is to bark longer and louder. He’s got endless energy for the fight

  I think that's because he has the most skin in the game, and thus the most to gain or lose from any confrontation. I have no doubt that he is convinced he is right, and that helps keep him going. But more than that is the need to keep his reputation intact among as many of his followers as possible, since they're the source of his funding and can bring more people to his channel, and thus to his Patreon. And, not incidentally, they keep his ego well-fed.
  

  I believe him when he says his current efforts are exhausting. There are simply too many fires to try to put out, and he seems to throw himself into any effort at fighting back when people call him out. I mean... he's plowing through the comments section of Kim's video, responding to as much as he can, even though he seems to understand how futile it is. But he can't help himself.

  And let's remember that moderation doesn't seem to be his strong suit.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  The comment section is a gold mine.

  Not surprising: Lloyd stating that he was done responding to comments, then spending time to respond to another dozen (or two dozen) comments.

  Surprising: The apology from one of his former patrons, who admitted to taking his $50-per-month (!!!!) to another exJW youtuber.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Oh, I think I get it. In Croatia, defamation is also treated as a criminal offense. His lawyer had mentioned the "crime of insult" in his letters. That is where he appears to be confused. My guess: he can file civil charges for defamation, but there isn't much that can be done on the criminal end of things unless he manages to get Kim extradited for the crime of being a meany-face on the internet.

  I'll bet the judge who ends up having to deal with Lloyd will have some stories to tell when it is all over. Maybe he'll stop by this thread and let us know how it went. I'm thinking it will be around page 420.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Wait... Croatia has a 90-day statute of limitations on civil action related to defamation? Or is he referring to something else?

  It's embarrassing to see him apparently confuse civil and criminal action. Kim points out that he cannot file criminal charges against her, and he goes on about the 90-day limit on defamation claims. I get the impression that his fingers are typing faster than his mind can process what he is reading.

  And I think it's awesome that she pinned his comment. A great way to show who is open to criticism (pinning critical comments) and who isn't (furiously deleting critical comments).
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Almost 2000 replies, too. Who knew that a green screen controversy could go on this long?!?!?!
  
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  What is the harm or downside of being PIMO?

  by PimoElder in

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  what is the harm or downside of being pimo?.

  i get all the good things about being in the cong, good social life lots of invites to bbqs and meals out.

  lots of interesting gossip 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

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  I wasn't really PIMO, but I can't imagine going to the weekly meetings (especially the midweek ones) and to field service for something I don't believe is real. I think that, on some level, I was already mentally gone before I consciously admitted it, and that made it easier to slowly drift away from the activities without really feeling guilty. There came a point where I felt like I had to drag myself to any JW activities and any excuse to stay home sounded good enough.

  And that was when I thought I was still convinced it was the truth!
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Rather than approach me privately to resolve matters, Dykstra allowed herself to be swayed by the Brooks’ and other activists who had an axe to grind. I eventually received a formal “cease and desist” letter via UPS at my home in Croatia, which probably cost more to write and send than the total value of the bootleg books.

  It's as if he looks at a situation, then thinks "is there a way I can make myself look like an even bigger douchebag?"

  And then he brainstorms for a few hours and starts writing about it.