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  Billions to die at Armageddon?

  by BoogerMan in

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  not according to this verse:.

  (mark 3:28, 29) truly i say to you that all things will be forgiven the sons of men, no matter what sins they commit and what blasphemies they speak.

  but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit has no forgiveness forever but is guilty of everlasting sin.”.

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  Armageddon will be the worst thing ever to hit this earth in the history of man.

  Good job, Jehovah!
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Kim this is how he has won Every Single Time, in the past. He’s like a dog whose only talent is to bark longer and louder. He’s got endless energy for the fight

  I think that's because he has the most skin in the game, and thus the most to gain or lose from any confrontation. I have no doubt that he is convinced he is right, and that helps keep him going. But more than that is the need to keep his reputation intact among as many of his followers as possible, since they're the source of his funding and can bring more people to his channel, and thus to his Patreon. And, not incidentally, they keep his ego well-fed.
  

  I believe him when he says his current efforts are exhausting. There are simply too many fires to try to put out, and he seems to throw himself into any effort at fighting back when people call him out. I mean... he's plowing through the comments section of Kim's video, responding to as much as he can, even though he seems to understand how futile it is. But he can't help himself.

  And let's remember that moderation doesn't seem to be his strong suit.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  The comment section is a gold mine.

  Not surprising: Lloyd stating that he was done responding to comments, then spending time to respond to another dozen (or two dozen) comments.

  Surprising: The apology from one of his former patrons, who admitted to taking his $50-per-month (!!!!) to another exJW youtuber.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Oh, I think I get it. In Croatia, defamation is also treated as a criminal offense. His lawyer had mentioned the "crime of insult" in his letters. That is where he appears to be confused. My guess: he can file civil charges for defamation, but there isn't much that can be done on the criminal end of things unless he manages to get Kim extradited for the crime of being a meany-face on the internet.

  I'll bet the judge who ends up having to deal with Lloyd will have some stories to tell when it is all over. Maybe he'll stop by this thread and let us know how it went. I'm thinking it will be around page 420.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Wait... Croatia has a 90-day statute of limitations on civil action related to defamation? Or is he referring to something else?

  It's embarrassing to see him apparently confuse civil and criminal action. Kim points out that he cannot file criminal charges against her, and he goes on about the 90-day limit on defamation claims. I get the impression that his fingers are typing faster than his mind can process what he is reading.

  And I think it's awesome that she pinned his comment. A great way to show who is open to criticism (pinning critical comments) and who isn't (furiously deleting critical comments).
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Almost 2000 replies, too. Who knew that a green screen controversy could go on this long?!?!?!
  
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  What is the harm or downside of being PIMO?

  by PimoElder in

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  what is the harm or downside of being pimo?.

  i get all the good things about being in the cong, good social life lots of invites to bbqs and meals out.

  lots of interesting gossip 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

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  I wasn't really PIMO, but I can't imagine going to the weekly meetings (especially the midweek ones) and to field service for something I don't believe is real. I think that, on some level, I was already mentally gone before I consciously admitted it, and that made it easier to slowly drift away from the activities without really feeling guilty. There came a point where I felt like I had to drag myself to any JW activities and any excuse to stay home sounded good enough.

  And that was when I thought I was still convinced it was the truth!
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Rather than approach me privately to resolve matters, Dykstra allowed herself to be swayed by the Brooks’ and other activists who had an axe to grind. I eventually received a formal “cease and desist” letter via UPS at my home in Croatia, which probably cost more to write and send than the total value of the bootleg books.

  It's as if he looks at a situation, then thinks "is there a way I can make myself look like an even bigger douchebag?"

  And then he brainstorms for a few hours and starts writing about it.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  How are his Patrons not seeing through this nonsense?

  He lost more than 300 of them, if I am not mistaken. That's pretty significant. The remaining ones may be die-hard supporters or not aware of what is happening (ie, not paying much attention or possibly not watching videos, but content to support his efforts).

  Kim- I think the 2017 event is Marko's letter. Others here would know if that's correct or not.
  
  
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  Can you list the positive points of being a JW as against the negative points of being a JW in your experience ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  i was a twenty y/old when i converted to the jw religion and was a problem drinker and i was a chain smoker .when i was baptized at a circuit assembly a year later , my conversion and change in lifestyle was given as an example of the effectiveness of incidental witnessing to the audience.. so i can point to the 2 positives becoming a jw .. 1.i gave up smoking.

  2.i gave up drinking for a while ,but because i still had association with my wife`s and my family who were not jw`s ,i learnt to control my social drinking when i started again.. and i have been a responsible drinker ever since ,even though i left the religion 29 years ago.. the negative points of being a jw in my 32 years of being one ?

  are far too great to list here .. love to hear your thoughts..

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  I have to agree with NonCoinCollector. There are good things I could point to from my time as a JW, but I could have gotten those from other religious (or possibly even secular) groups. And perhaps it would not have come with the baggage that I am left with.

  Maybe the one thing that I could list as a benefit on some level, is that their teaching that death is the end of existence is much better than the notion of eternal suffering in the afterlife. I occasionally feel a bit sad at the idea of missing out, but that is far better than the terror many people feel over thoughts of hell. Even people who stop believing in god find that their subconscious fear of eternal torment does not go away when they consciously decide there is no afterlife.