Posts by TonusOH

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Roe vs Wade Overturned by US Supreme Court!

by Simon in

i know there was a leak a few weeks back, but this really does seem to have come out of the blue.. the anomaly was the original decision.

it clearly had no basis in law or the constitution, and was a flimsy, ridiculous ruling.

plus the whole thing was based on a fraudulent case in the first place.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61928898.

TonusOH

It won't happen, they are controlled by the left and the left are currently in power and things are already bad enough without them making things worse.

I hope you're right. But I don't think those groups will see that. The extreme left wing seems to be taking the approach that they have to act now, and this would be an attack against a court that may have a conservative majority for a pretty long time. They must also be concerned that, if 2022 and 2024 lead to a Republican President with majorities in both houses and a friendly court, much bigger changes may be coming. Changes that they will not like at all.

This might be their last real chance to do a lot of damage and unleash violence and destruction with relatively little cost to themselves. That is a very tempting opportunity for a group that believes that their cause is so important that any action is moral and just.

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Roe vs Wade Overturned by US Supreme Court!

by Simon in

i know there was a leak a few weeks back, but this really does seem to have come out of the blue.. the anomaly was the original decision.

it clearly had no basis in law or the constitution, and was a flimsy, ridiculous ruling.

plus the whole thing was based on a fraudulent case in the first place.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61928898.

TonusOH

I think that most states will quickly make abortion legal, while a small number will heavily restrict it or make it illegal. It will take some time for it all to get sorted out, but I think that in the long term, abortion will be legal in all 50 states, with restrictions similar to the ones in effect when it was federal law.

I won't say that it is much ado about nothing, but for a large majority of Americans this will have very little effect. We will need to deal with the wave of coming violence from left-wing extremists, but we've dealt with that before when far-right nuts were targeting abortion clinics. The perpetually aggrieved will always find a reason to act out against people who have not done anything to harm them.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

That sounds accurate. He has tried to minimize his actions by claiming that they weren't worse ('didn't kill anyone, didn't drown puppies, etc') and that he's no different from any other 'flawed individual.' He has also said that he knows that he is a good person.

So, in a way, he is "identifying as a moral person." This is the basis for his pushback against criticisms and accusations of misconduct. And it comes down to a similar approach- claim you are one thing, regardless of the evidence, and use the disputed claim to attack everyone else as bigots and haters.

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Big Win in Supreme Court of the U.S. today for all of the 2nd Amendment folks

by StoneWall in

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i'm so happy about this.this will have major implications for states such as california and their laws not only new york.let freedom ring!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv70otfd8ck.

TonusOH

I think the real significance of this ruling has nothing to do with guns-- the court affirmed that states cannot simply carve out exceptions to Constitutional rights. Want to "fix" or remove the Second Amendment? There are procedures in place to do so. Overriding the Constitution with additional laws/rules/regulations is dangerous.

As I've said before, if you want to strip a populace of its rights and freedoms, you start by working on things that are unpopular. Lots of people are too eager to cheer for this attempt to undermine the Constitution, because the Second Amendment is involved. But this kind of thinking assumes that the government will stop there, instead of going ahead and weakening the Fourth Amendment. Or the First.

Authoritarians believe two things: that the populace doesn't need much freedom or many rights, and that they are the ones who know how to run things the best. They also think that they are the ones who will be in charge when the smoke clears, but that is almost never the case throughout history. So when they weaken the Constitution, they think they're making it easier for themselves to rule, but they're really just making it easier for the real monster, whose first action is usually to get rid of the people who made their ascension possible.

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The WT has failed to explain fundamental doctrines

by Kosonen in

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sadly the wt failed to teach fundamental biblical doctrines.

i did never really understand the doctrine about ransom while i was still in the congregation.. i did not either understand what it really means that "god is love" as stated in the bible.

i did not either understand from the wt what is love.

TonusOH

As I understood it, the ransom is paid to God. When Adam and Eve sinned, they sinned against God. The blood sacrifice that cleansed those sins from the ledger would be paid to God, and he would then forgive the sin. That is how blood sacrifices worked in Israel, wasn't it?

I think the difficulty in explaining it, is that the concept is not very intuitive. Especially the part where the guilt for the sin is passed on to humanity, and the blood sacrifice therefore cleanses us of a sin we didn't commit, and doesn't redeem Adam and Eve. But it also wasn't a typical blood sacrifice, so the rules don't necessarily have to be the same.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

I think he is already doing all three, plus I expect...

4. Shoot himself in the foot, then shove his foot in his mouth.

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What do the FREEMASONS really know about JEHOVAH

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/2nc7twdw_9sfreemasons including charles taze russell knew for a fact jehovah is not god's name ,they knew that jehovah is just an amalgamation of vowels of adonai and the consonants of the tetragramaton.

it was common knowledge amongst freemasons prior to 1871 that not only jehovah is not god's name but it was created for the sole purpose of stopping people pronouncing god's real name.i will let that sink in for a moment.

being in full knowledge of these facts makes you think what russell's true intentions were for creating jehovah's witnesses as a religion in the first place because as sure as hell it was not for promoting the divine name.many have tried to make the case over the years the russell was not a mason or if he was he was very poorly educated in the masonic doctrines but this is not the case , in fact if you spend some time reading his writings you realise that the exact opposite is true.he was so thoroughly versed in freemasonry that he was trying to create a cross bread between christianity and freemasonry, and thats what i think his true intentions were to take freemasonry to its next level of infiltration of the christian faith, he was an apostate for the freemasons but russell saw himself as the next albert pike,unfortunately that didn't work out for him and he ultimately paid the price...read the rest herehttps://tevangelinos.wixsite.com/jwupdates/post/what-do-freemasons-really-know-about-jehovah

TonusOH

I think it actually reflects better on a god if they don't care how you pronounce their name, or even if you remember it. I mean, you're powerful enough to create an entire universe without breaking a sweat, but you really REALLY need for the people on this tiny speck of dust to get your name right?

Then again, the OT makes god seem very quick to anger over lots of things, so getting pissed off about his name seems right up his alley. "You put the emphasis on the wrong syllable! That's it. THAT... IS... IT!!! I'm flooding the whole thing. All of it!"

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Experiences with kiss up kick down Jehovahs witnesses

by hoser in

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/kiss_up_kick_down.

i’ll go first.. in a previous congregation we had a pioneer couple that have since gone on to be gilead graduates and are now either in circuit work or translation.

they checked all the boxes off the societies list so they were exemplary.

TonusOH

It's not just the gall of them clearly putting the organization's most minor interests (don't make them look bad at the most local level) ahead of yours (time wasted and money lost with no recompense, because 'god will fix it all in the end'). It's that they don't care if an unscrupulous person takes advantage of one of "the sheep" that they are supposed to be looking out for. Does the slimy contractor get anything done to him? What is the worst they can do, give him a "talking to"? After he got away with what amounts to a crime?

He walks away laughing, and the elders pat each other on the back for 'maintaining the good name of Jehovah by showing how well everyone in the congregation gets along.'

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“This generation will by no means pass away.”

by Fisherman in

for argument sake let’s assume that this verse should apply to 1914. what are your thoughts on generation?.

TonusOH

This is where having access to their written claims makes such a difference. You can see how their explanation changes, to keep the expectation fresh by implying that time has almost run out. Prior to the 1950s, the explanation was that people who were alive and could comprehend the day's events were the generation, meaning that by the 50s and 60s they would be entering their 70s and 80s. Then they explained that children as young as ten could fit that description. Then it was infants. Then it was anyone born by 1914.

Finally it was anyone who knew anyone who was born by 1914, which is where I think it went off the rails. They should have stuck with their 1995 decision to change the wording and emphasize it less, but without the sense of urgency they have a difficult time recruiting. 'Come join the religion that is awaiting the end... AGAIN' just doesn't have the same draw.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

Shadow banned? lol